New person recruited on way more ££ than me...Is this allowed?!

Rueben_2

To echo a lot of other thoughts, yes, this is legal and normal. If they are prepared to pay that much for the right person, fine, likewise, if they feel they can get away with paying you what they do, again, fine.

By all means negotiate a wage rise, based on your personal contribution to the business (focusing on successes and achievements, not negative items like your workload or your financial circumstances). Your employer won't entertain any request when it's linked to how much someone else gets.

Tough, but fact-of-life I'm afraid.

P.S. It's entirely plausible that on a subconscious level they feel justified with your pay because you do have additional requirements and are off sick more often (what might seem like "a little more often" to you might be "borderline unacceptable" to them). Again, not legal, but nearly impossible to prove. Subjective from my part, but perhaps not too far removed from the truth?

coinxoperated

Recently had exactly the same thing happen to me.

The problem is when it comes to payrises, companies look at percentages, not amounts.

When it comes to a new job, that's your negotiation time. It's crap, total crap, but that's what companies do.

Buellguy

coinxoperated wrote: »

Recently had exactly the same thing happen to me.

The problem is when it comes to payrises, companies look at percentages, not amounts.

When it comes to a new job, that's your negotiation time. It's crap, total crap, but that's what companies do.

Can work in your favour, My better half (RMN in a residential care home) is basically on the same as the home manager. Reason - they needed an RMN with the necessary dementia skills - therefore were willing to pay.

coinxoperated

Buellguy wrote: »

Can work in your favour, My better half (RMN in a residential care home) is basically on the same as the home manager. Reason - they needed an RMN with the necessary dementia skills - therefore were willing to pay.

Very true! But really - how often does that happen?

If they know your financially hard up surely common sense would say you wouldn't risk actually losing your job. A lot of companies won't increase pay dramatically until the very last moment. Maybe applying elsewhere, gaining employment for higher pay and then trying to negotiate an increase to stay would be better.

If you graft and do all the hard work for 15k, why should they increase it to 20k-25k if they know your not going anywhere?

The guy at the top set targets
The guys beneath him work hard to meet his targets
Unfortunately, since the recession and general economy stuff, targets will revolve around budgets. The man above you want more money too, so does the one above him and so on. So if your getting on with it for rubbish money, he can say 'I've saved xxxx by keeping this person'.

When your in a position to hand in your notice and move onto another role, negotiate then. Be prepared to actually leave though, it's likely they'll call your bluff!

I used to think a company that didn't value it's staff wasn't one I wanted to work for.

I don't think theirs many companies that can hand on heart say they pay the best wages and look after their staff.

Oh, and do not mention that you've seen paperwork! I've recently had a similar thing where a director left a folder on my desk! I thought it was mine so was flicking through and saw that had allocated a budget of 25k for my role.... And guess what.. They know I'm hard up for cash, need the job, live on my own, and I was given 17k. I'm miffed too.

Apply for every job going that's near the wage you want. You only need one job offer of a slightly higher wage to be able to negotiate! X

Buellguy

coinxoperated wrote: »

Very true! But really - how often does that happen? Got the wage when she went for the job - dunno how often it happens

If they know your financially hard up surely common sense would say you wouldn't risk actually losing your job. A lot of companies won't increase pay dramatically until the very last moment. Maybe applying elsewhere, gaining employment for higher pay and then trying to negotiate an increase to stay would be better.

If you graft and do all the hard work for 15k, why should they increase it to 20k-25k if they know your not going anywhere? Exactly, go and look for another job on better money, then go back in and renegotiate

The guy at the top set targets
The guys beneath him work hard to meet his targets
Unfortunately, since the recession and general economy stuff, targets will revolve around budgets. The man above you want more money too, so does the one above him and so on. So if your getting on with it for rubbish money, he can say 'I've saved xxxx by keeping this person'.

When your in a position to hand in your notice and move onto another role, negotiate then. Be prepared to actually leave though, it's likely they'll call your bluff! Yep, although at least if you have another job lined up you can actually leave so you are in a position to negotiate

I used to think a company that didn't value it's staff wasn't one I wanted to work for. Still don't, look after your staff (coming from 22 years in the Army) and they will work better, be more productive, be willing to do that extra bit of overtime when pushed etc. I do think that p*****g off the workforce is NOT the way to go

I don't think theirs many companies that can hand on heart say they pay the best wages and look after their staff.

Oh, and do not mention that you've seen paperwork! I've recently had a similar thing where a director left a folder on my desk! I thought it was mine so was flicking through and saw that had allocated a budget of 25k for my role.... And guess what.. They know I'm hard up for cash, need the job, live on my own, and I was given 17k. I'm miffed too. Could have been a test? Personally I'd have gone back to said director with the comment 'Oh, by the way, you left this on my desk, I'm not sure you meant to leave it there'

Apply for every job going that's near the wage you want. You only need one job offer of a slightly higher wage to be able to negotiate! X

Again - Yep