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Limits on S&S ISA

I am a bit confused about a couple of things, if I may "income" inside a stocks and shares ISA, does this count towards my £10,000 limit before i have declare it for the purpose of self assessment.

Also if the limit takes me into the 40% tax bracket would I have to declare it then, even if below the £10,000 limit.

Any clues?, it's not very clear on the HMRC website about this.

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  • Linton
    Linton Posts: 18,362 Forumite
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    sorcerer wrote: »
    I am a bit confused about a couple of things, if I may "income" inside a stocks and shares ISA, does this count towards my £10,000 limit before i have declare it for the purpose of self assessment.

    Also if the limit takes me into the 40% tax bracket would I have to declare it then, even if below the £10,000 limit.

    Any clues?, it's not very clear on the HMRC website about this.


    Any money gained from investments in an ISA stays in the ISA. The £11280 (not £10000) limit is only for new money. Once money is in an ISA it is completely outside the tax system - it has no effect on your tax bands.
  • sorcerer
    sorcerer Posts: 878 Forumite
    sorry i mean't HMRC have a maximum total of £10,000 from savings and investments, but you need to tell them about it, for the purpose of self assement.

    I am refereing to this webpage - http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/need-tax-return.htm

    Where it says the following

    Income above a certain level from savings, investment or property

    If you don't already complete a tax return, you'll need to do so if you receive any of the following:
    • £10,000 or more income from savings and investments
    • £2,500 or more income from untaxed savings and investments
    • £10,000 or more income from property (before deducting allowable expenses)
    • £2,500 or more income from property (after deducting allowable expenses)
    • annual trust or settlement income on which tax is still due (even if you’re only treated as receiving this income)
    • income from the estate of a deceased person on which tax is still due
  • Linton
    Linton Posts: 18,362 Forumite
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    Money in an ISA it doesnt count for HMRC purposes.
  • noh
    noh Posts: 5,819 Forumite
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    Income of any amount received within an ISA does not have to be declared. Nor does the income received count towards the £10K threshold detailed in your post.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/isa/faqs.htm#10
  • sorcerer
    sorcerer Posts: 878 Forumite
    Great so for example if I make £7000 from normal savings account, £2000 from Cash ISA and £2000 from stock and shares ISA, I wouldn't need to tell them about this, because my total income is £7000 for HMRC purposes and not £11,000?

    Assuming that I have paid tax on all of the £7000.
  • sorcerer
    sorcerer Posts: 878 Forumite
    noh wrote: »
    Income of any amount received within an ISA does not have to be declared. Nor does the income received count towards the £10K threshold detailed in your post.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/isa/faqs.htm#10

    Great, that's what I needed to know, thanks so much. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. I like to keep on the right side of HMRC! :A
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