just stop all benefits.

The_White_Horse

that should be it. from Jan 1st, stop ALL benefits.

then, set up offices staffed by doctors, and people can queue up for handouts. If the doctors think they can last another few days, they should be told to go.

if not, they should be given a cereal bar.

the end.

Loopgames

Only works if you stop paying taxes too.

Then more employers can recruit without worrying about the NI contributions they have to pay. Whilst we're at it let there be no minimum wage either then it is survival of the fittest. Charities can do the work of the councils -looking after those disadvantaged in the workplace and there will be more jobs available with lower wages.

Need to think through this more:o...

The_White_Horse

My problem is not with terribly handicapped people. my problem is with the thousands of "bad backs" and "depressed people" that cannot prove their illness, and other layabouts.

I would happily double the benefits for real disabled people, if the others got nothing.

that said, i have (and do) worked with blind people, deaf people, people in wheelchairs - they have all gotten into work and worked. most people can work - but use their disability as an excuse not to bother.

PaulF81

Interesting idea. Certainly would get the pensioners receiving their old age jobless benefit up in arms.

robpw2

The_White_Horse wrote: »

I agree!

My problem is not with terribly handicapped people. my problem is with the thousands of "bad backs" and "depressed people" that cannot prove their illness, and other layabouts.

I would happily double the benefits for real disabled people, if the others got nothing.

that said, i have (and do) worked with blind people, deaf people, people in wheelchairs - they have all gotten into work and worked. most people can work - but use their disability as an excuse not to bother.

sorry how do you define real disabled people?
i have a back problem that means i have to use a stick to move around because other wise the "badback" as you put it affects my sciatic nerve and the feeling in my left leg, (im not claiming benfits btw im fit to work (atos approved )) however it doesnt mean that i don't have a "real disability" as you put it .

andyroberts1967

The_White_Horse wrote: »

I agree!

My problem is not with terribly handicapped people. my problem is with the thousands of "bad backs" and "depressed people" that cannot prove their illness, and other layabouts.

I would happily double the benefits for real disabled people, if the others got nothing.

that said, i have (and do) worked with blind people, deaf people, people in wheelchairs - they have all gotten into work and worked. most people can work - but use their disability as an excuse not to bother.

So why did you say ALL benefits, if your problem is not with terribly handicapped people?

paddyrg

How about working tax credits, for low-paid people? Stay or go? Child support - stay or go? Should hospital in-patients (who will increase under your regime) be fed? Shall we kill of housing benefit as well? Statutory sick pay?

Oh no - suddenly it's all not so simple any more...

The_White_Horse

paddyrg wrote: »

How about working tax credits, for low-paid people? Stay or go? Child support - stay or go? Should hospital in-patients (who will increase under your regime) be fed? Shall we kill of housing benefit as well? Statutory sick pay?

Oh no - suddenly it's all not so simple any more...

yes it is, do away with all it.

The_White_Horse

robpw2 wrote: »

sorry how do you define real disabled people?
i have a back problem that means i have to use a stick to move around because other wise the "badback" as you put it affects my sciatic nerve and the feeling in my left leg, (im not claiming benfits btw im fit to work (atos approved )) however it doesnt mean that i don't have a "real disability" as you put it .

so you work, so what is the issue?

I wear glasses - that is a disability. without them I can't see anything. YET i have to pay for my own glasses. Why don't i get them free? I probably couldn't work without them. I do a lot of reading.

i might get some horrible NHS thick lenses that hurt my nose - might, as i don't think i even get that. if i want thin lenses for comfort, i have to pay hundreds of pounds, so why can't others. with a bad back for example, pay for their own comfort?

wigglybum

The_White_Horse wrote: »

that should be it. from Jan 1st, stop ALL benefits.

then, set up offices staffed by doctors, and people can queue up for handouts. If the doctors think they can last another few days, they should be told to go.

if not, they should be given a cereal bar.

the end.

If there were a daftest post of the year competition,this one would win it hands down.
My husband has a 'bad back',multiple surgeries,he can't walk etc etc.5 years ago we had a combined income of £60,000,now it is less than £8,000.If you think for one minute we enjoy been on benefits then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

robpw2

The_White_Horse wrote: »

so you work, so what is the issue?

?

well no at the moment i don't because my disbility puts off employers ....and so i don't get money from work or form the dwp - im lucky i have a partner