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Outside prime London, house prices are falling back to earth

http://www.cityam.com/latest-news/allister-heath/outside-prime-london-house-prices-are-falling-back-earth

Excerpt:

"The inflation-adjusted figures reveal that the peak to trough real terms decline has now reached around 24.2 per cent. Average house prices are back in real terms to levels last seen in the first quarter of 2003. In other words, all of the gains incurred over the past nine years have been completely wiped out. For most people in Britain, housing has been a poor investment over the past decade.

The figures provided by Halifax are even more extreme. These suggest that the real terms slump in average UK house prices has now reached a remarkable 33 per cent (and 19 per cent in nominal terms). Andrew Lilico of Europe Economics calculates that the real-terms peak-to-trough collapse in the 1990s was 33.9 per cent, so that could easily be surpassed next month."
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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,236 Forumite
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    So in other words we are achieving a rebalancing a lot less painfully than if it had all happened as a quick nominal collapse - keep printing money and 'missing' that inflation target I say.
    I think....
  • skivenov
    skivenov Posts: 2,204 Forumite
    I can vouch for this - I couldn't afford a house in 2003 either!
    Yes it's overwhelming, but what else can we do?
    Get jobs in offices and wake up for the morning commute?
  • The-Joker
    The-Joker Posts: 718 Forumite
    michaels wrote: »
    So in other words we are achieving a rebalancing a lot less painfully than if it had all happened as a quick nominal collapse - keep printing money and 'missing' that inflation target I say.

    Slow is worse though, look at the USA and N,Ireland, if the UK fell 50% as well we could now have a real recovery and start again.

    The way it is its just prolonging the pain.
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
  • The-Joker
    The-Joker Posts: 718 Forumite
    The-Smoker wrote: »
    Slow is worse though, look at the USA and N,Ireland, if the UK fell 50% as well we could now have a real recovery and start again.

    The way it is its just prolonging the pain.

    N Ireland and indeed all Ireland is still falling
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    The-Joker wrote: »
    N Ireland and indeed all Ireland is still falling

    Talking to yourself you know what they say about that.
  • Fella wrote: »
    For most people in Britain, housing has been a poor investment over the past decade.

    Really..........

    What then has been the cost to non homeowners in the same 10 year period?

    Rent costs are proven to be far greater than mortgage costs, let alone interest, so what has been the cost of not investing?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Really..........

    What then has been the cost to non homeowners in the same 10 year period?

    Rent costs are proven to be far greater than mortgage costs, let alone interest, so what has been the cost of not investing?

    What you forget is high housing benefit have pushed up rents so you argument is redundant because the government is paying most low income families rents.
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    The-Joker wrote: »
    What you forget is high housing benefit have pushed up rents so you argument is redundant because the government is paying most low income families rents.

    What has that got to do with anything.
  • ukcarper wrote: »
    What has that got to do with anything.

    Everything actually everyone getting housing benefit do not want to buy so while it lasts rents will stay high. But h
    Ousting benefit will be cut and rents will fall.
    The thing about chaos is, it's fair.
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    The point is you said over the past decade housing has been a poor investment but how does that compare to renting over the same period.
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