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Sling yer 'ook, Hamza!

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  • Notice that the protesters in those pictures are all supporting Babar Ahmad, so probably not the rabid anti-British brigade. There are some real questions around the extradition of Mr Ahmad.
  • zaksmum
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    I don't know of any other country where you would be allowed to incite hatred against it's people and be so completely protected by it's police.

    Hamza has been found guilty of inciting hatred against non muslims and I for one think he deserves everything he gets.

    I'm sick of this country being seen as a soft touch by the rest of the world.
  • zaksmum wrote: »
    I'm sick of this country being seen as a soft touch by the rest of the world.

    The problem is that it's not just seen as a soft touch, it actually is a soft touch.
    It will take an awful lot more than 4 or 5 nutters being kicked out to change both the reality of how easy it is to manipulate the UK legal system if you have the backing of highly paid legal aid lawyers.
  • Zedicus
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    zaksmum wrote: »
    I don't know of any other country where you would be allowed to incite hatred against it's people and be so completely protected by it's police./QUOTE]

    Try the U.S. There, such speech is protected by the first amendment. They are unable to enact laws protecting people from others inspiring hatred. Laws that we, in Europe, take for granted. What's more, a lot of Americans are PROUD of the fact that they don't and can't have such laws.
  • giraffe69
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    I think it's terrible at how quickly he was extradited...

    The courts did not have enough time to consider all the evidence.

    Assuming you are serious the extradition did not occur until the court had rendered its verdict (which incidentally was rather similar to rather a lot of previous verdicts) so the judge thought he had enough time. Full marks to the government on this occasion for actually taking some direct and swift action to stop this sorry saga continuing.
  • Zedicus
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    The problem is that it's not just seen as a soft touch, it actually is a soft touch.
    It will take an awful lot more than 4 or 5 nutters being kicked out to change both the reality of how easy it is to manipulate the UK legal system if you have the backing of highly paid legal aid lawyers.

    I take it you are of the Goater school of thought that believes that the only people who should be allowed full access to the due process of the law are those you approve of.
  • Zedicus
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    giraffe69 wrote: »
    Full marks to the government on this occasion for actually taking some direct and swift action to stop this sorry saga continuing.

    It had nothing to do with the government. It was a matter for the judge who heard the case. So if you want to award anyone full marks, it should be him. (And several centuries of the evolution the legal system.)
  • zaksmum
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    Have they taken his hook away in the US prison?
  • NBLondon
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    zaksmum wrote: »
    Have they taken his hook away in the US prison?
    Initially yes, he turned up in court and his lawyer had to convince the judge it was a medical device and not a weapon. The judge let him have them back.
    I need to think of something new here...
  • peachyprice
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    dacouch wrote: »
    Surely they all are

    He's the only licenced one ;)
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
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