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Anybody worked in Payroll before?

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  • JDC14
    JDC14 Posts: 439 Forumite
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    Half an hour?

    Doesn't saying things like that kind of insult those who have been in training for SAGE? So perhaps avoid saying things like this in interviews!
    Acc72 wrote: »
    Sorry to state the obvious, but if you have no knowledge or experience of working within payroll, why do you "really want" a job in payroll ?
    denla wrote: »
    He's seen what appears to be a dumb girl sitting in a chair comfortably typing in some data and thinks it's easy.

    Again, completely mis-read.

    Learning a piece of software is a piece of pie. Understanding exactly what it's done, and why, and dealing with queries from people that aren't straight forward is what to learn.

    I'm sure if someone sitting infront of a computer was asked to find the list of employees for example, it wouldn't take them long to learn things like that. And basics like inputting the details of an employee wouldn't take that long to learn. Running a payrun or something like that, I've not claimed at all to be able to learn in 30 minutes, nor do I expect so.

    As for the 'Really wanting the job' bit. I think that came across with the wrong inflection. I've basically applied for anything out there I think I can do, but out of the better ones, that I'd actually be willing to do given a choice, there's quite a few Payroll roles amongst it.

    And for Denla's comment. Wow. I'm sure your helpful comments are appreciated by the other bitter people in society, but that's not the case at all for me. So I think it'd be appreciated a little more, if you didn't comment again in this thread.
  • Well if you are a whiz with software turn your attention to that. Some of the times being quoted here to really learn a payroll job surprise me. You can become an expert in the software in less time than the business processes, it would seem, and the software roles pay more.
  • SueC_2
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    JDC14 wrote: »
    (especially the top ones that I really want)
    JDC14 wrote: »
    I imagine left to my own devices I'd work the majority of it out in half hour

    I'd suggest the two are incompatible.

    If you want a top job, you are probably going to need more experience than what you can work out for yourself in half an hour.

    If you want a job where you can work it out for yourself in half an hour, I think the data entry level positions are where you should be aiming.
  • JDC14
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    SueC wrote: »
    I'd suggest the two are incompatible.

    If you want a top job, you are probably going to need more experience than what you can work out for yourself in half an hour.

    If you want a job where you can work it out for yourself in half an hour, I think the data entry level positions are where you should be aiming.

    Again, if you'd read the whole thread, you'd see the explanation for what I meant by the half hour comment. Therefore, your post is irrelevant, but thanks for trying.
  • SueC_2
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    JDC14 wrote: »
    Again, if you'd read the whole thread, you'd see the explanation for what I meant by the half hour comment. Therefore, your post is irrelevant, but thanks for trying.

    My pleasure.
  • pelirocco
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    JDC14 wrote: »
    Didn't even bother reading half of those replies as you've all completely mis-read it.

    I said I reckon I could work out the software in half an hour, never said I'd understand all the legislation/regulations/rules/actions required in the role.

    You all seem a tad touchy about the subject, so I won't even bother looking on here for any more advice about it.



    Sage payroll software is a flipping nightmare , not even taking into account legislation , we have used it for about 20 years , and in the early years i used to run the payroll , but thankfully now I have someone else to do it for me ! Trust me , you will not work out the software in half an hour ........and potential employer will want someone who is experienced in it , and a smaller employer will probably want to combine it with a booking role
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  • pelirocco
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    JDC14 wrote: »
    Again, completely mis-read.

    Learning a piece of software is a piece of pie. Understanding exactly what it's done, and why, and dealing with queries from people that aren't straight forward is what to learn.

    I'm sure if someone sitting infront of a computer was asked to find the list of employees for example, it wouldn't take them long to learn things like that. And basics like inputting the details of an employee wouldn't take that long to learn. Running a payrun or something like that, I've not claimed at all to be able to learn in 30 minutes, nor do I expect so.

    As for the 'Really wanting the job' bit. I think that came across with the wrong inflection. I've basically applied for anything out there I think I can do, but out of the better ones, that I'd actually be willing to do given a choice, there's quite a few Payroll roles amongst it.

    And for Denla's comment. Wow. I'm sure your helpful comments are appreciated by the other bitter people in society, but that's not the case at all for me. So I think it'd be appreciated a little more, if you didn't comment again in this thread.

    You could probably do the basic inputting of employee hours worked , if it was all set up for you , but its gets a bit trickier with holiday pay, and as for entering sick pay , that can be a nightmare.

    Payroll can be mind numbingly boring
    Vuja De - the feeling you'll be here later
  • haven't looked for a while

    but i'm betting there is a huge difference in salary between payroll entry and payroll management?

    i don't think the role would suit you anyway OP, payroll requires patience and quite a specific "calm" when it comes to explaning calcs to employees.

    Go for something else, i think you would be useful in an "operations" environment where timings were critical (im serious! you seem dedicated, keen and a person that would "get the job done")
  • denla
    denla Posts: 417 Forumite
    haven't looked for a while

    but i'm betting there is a huge difference in salary between payroll entry and payroll management?

    i don't think the role would suit you anyway OP, payroll requires patience and quite a specific "calm" when it comes to explaning calcs to employees.

    Go for something else, i think you would be useful in an "operations" environment where timings were critical (im serious! you seem dedicated, keen and a person that would "get the job done")

    There's a huge salary difference of course, and the roles are not simply payroll entry level jobs and then HR/payroll manager. Depends on the company itself. Most entry level roles can be £12k-18k pa for full-time, rising up to £30k, and even £40k pa if you're working for a prestigious company. You can also be a HR manager performing payroll work at £16k pa if you're stuck in a crap company. A lot of HR employees end up teaching because they can't get a decent HR job.

    Generally people hire HR qualified applicants who also have experience in payroll. Just knowing payroll won't get you far since it's just a part of HR. I've never heard of a payroll manager before... only an HR manager who's expected to have a degree, HR qualifications, HR and payroll experience.
  • 07311022
    07311022 Posts: 99 Forumite
    Perhaps you should look at the www.cipp.org.uk - there are certainly plenty there. Needless to say training in payroll takes a lot more time and effort than 30 minutes!
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