Reference help..........

Torry_Quine

norwichmuscles wrote: »

Because I thought pay increases over 10% were uncommon.

for the last time it isn't a pay-rise! If someone is working for minimum wage and then gets a job paying £50 per hour we don't say they've had a £41 pay-rise do we!!

MissSarah1972

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

If I had that on a reference, I'd be calling the manager up and asking direct. It screams 'he's hiding something'.

If you can't justify wanting more, then why are you willing to lie and possibly be sacked for it?

I don't think it's hiding something I think it's not relevant.

MissSarah1972

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I can't think of a good reason to withhold your salary to a prospective employer.

I may be thick here but it isn't a payrise as its a different job. If the new job is £5K more and they thought you were the best candidate why wouldn't they pay you that?

Because if you say you were on £24k and the job was advertised at £30 they will want to offer you £25k.

Most employers would want to get someone cheaper if they could and by saying what you earn they know they do not have to offer what they were advertising.

MissSarah1972

norwichmuscles wrote: »

I know a P45 states earnings and tax etc - however I can always get around this by saying it has been lost and complete a P46 instead if I changed employers.

You can send your P45 direct to their tax office.

norwichmuscles

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

I don't think it's hiding something I think it's not relevant.

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Because if you say you were on £24k and the job was advertised at £30 they will want to offer you £25k.

Most employers would want to get someone cheaper if they could and by saying what you earn they know they do not have to offer what they were advertising.

So you think with holding the information isn't a bad thing..... Saying its irrelevant...... But you would withhold the information entirely, e.g. Not even volunteer paystubs.

Torry_Quine

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

Because if you say you were on £24k and the job was advertised at £30 they will want to offer you £25k.

Most employers would want to get someone cheaper if they could and by saying what you earn they know they do not have to offer what they were advertising.

Really, gosh I didn't know that. It still doesn't change though that if you're going for a job that you obviously think you can do then you should be able to justify getting the advertised salary.

MissSarah1972

norwichmuscles wrote: »

So you think with holding the information isn't a bad thing..... Saying its irrelevant...... But you would withhold the information entirely, e.g. Not even volunteer paystubs.

Why would you give an employer your old pay slips??

KiKi

If a job is advertised at £37k, and you have the skills to do the job, then why would you not be offered that??

I really don't understand why you think only 10% is do-able? If an employer wants you, they want you. They may ask about your previous salary, but withholding it really, really doesn't look good.

People move in order to get much higher salaries than the payrise they could get in their current company. If you're skilled for the job, then ask for what they're offering. Stop restricting yourself to this 10% thing. And don't tell HR to withhold your salary; it looks bad.

Uncertain

I agree with KiKi.

If your skills are desirable enough then everything is negotiable, salary, benefits, notice periods etc etc.

princessdon

What you need to be concerned about really is why?

If your new employers do ask and your employer refuses because (you asked them not to), it's gonna create a bit of "what is going on". Especially when you have to give your P45 etc.

Did you lie on the app form or at interview? Ie if they asked current salary?

If not - then they don't give a chuff what your current is. My OH offered someone at 65% increase once. From £15 - £25 K. He deliberately made the decision NOT to ask their current at interview as their company policy was to increase by 10% max (some discretion) and he knew the lad would be on a pittance as he knew from others who worked their previously that they treat their "trainees/grads" poorly with pay and worked them hard.

He paid market value for skills - what he thought the person was worth.

One of his best hires he ever made and the young one has moved on and is now on a very high wage indeed.

In otherwords salary isn't important and if it was they'd have asked you. If you were not truthful they will find out and as they can "sack you" for any reason - this wouldn't be a good start.