Getting fed up now

1940sGal

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

What about medical photography? they provide the equiptment and employed by the NHS.

That's something I've honestly never considered. I think i've always assumed you'd have to have either different or extra qualifications but now you've mentioned it i will look into it so thanks

EDIT: looking here it says you need a Post Grad degree in clinical photography but am i reading it right in that it looks like you do it while working? And don't the NHS pay for tuition fees?

dawyldthing

Well to do a PGCE for teaching GCSE's you most often have to have a degree in the subject you would like to teach, but Photography may lead you to be an art based teacher as I know when I did AS Art they had aspects of black and white photography incorporated in it.

You usually need C's in English, Maths and Science, your degree and relevant experience with working with children/young people.

For PGCE English:

http://www.education.leeds.ac.uk/pgce/entry-requirements

PGCE Art:

http://www2.mmu.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught/2012/9765/?course_id=9765

I didn't go through the PGCE route, but I know people that did and its hard work, many do drop out throughout the course as its full on for the full year.

teabelly

Magnum photos are doing a weekend set of seminars in Brighton in Mid October. It isn't too late to apply. http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=MAXO31_3&VBID=2K1HZO04CS3YG&IID=2K1HRGTZQP0&PN=10

They do quite a lot of courses. They also have another which is again in Brighton but it is a week and costs a grand. http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=MAXO31_3&VBID=2K1HZO04CS3YG&IID=2K1HRGTRBLJ&PN=5

If you can do fine art photography there is no technical reason why you can't do commercial. Martin Parr does commercial so it is clearly possible for a fine art person to do it

If your fine art work is based around portraits then you could think of doing standard studio work.

If you're thinking of teaching there is nothing stopping you from doing adult education or running your own independent courses. Local unis' photography departments? Do they want people?

If you have a spare £9k then Annabel Williams mentoring course on becoming a pro photographer is supposed to be worth it.

1940sGal

dawyldthing wrote: »

Well to do a PGCE for teaching GCSE's you most often have to have a degree in the subject you would like to teach, but Photography may lead you to be an art based teacher as I know when I did AS Art they had aspects of black and white photography incorporated in it.

You usually need C's in English, Maths and Science, your degree and relevant experience with working with children/young people.

For PGCE English:

http://www.education.leeds.ac.uk/pgce/entry-requirements

PGCE Art:

http://www2.mmu.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught/2012/9765/?course_id=9765

I didn't go through the PGCE route, but I know people that did and its hard work, many do drop out throughout the course as its full on for the full year.

Teaching art is something i've thought about. What put me off is that although i have a great knowledge base in art (including the two years I did it at college before uni and a life long love for it), my drawing/painting skills aren't top notch. They're good, but not as good as a lot of people. I wonder if that would be too big a deterrent...

I'd like to do a PGCE but it's funding it

1940sGal

teabelly wrote: »

Magnum photos are doing a weekend set of seminars in Brighton in Mid October. It isn't to late to apply. http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=MAXO31_3&VBID=2K1HZO04CS3YG&IID=2K1HRGTZQP0&PN=10

They do quite a lot of courses. They also have another which is again in Brighton but it is a week and costs a grand. http://www.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=MAXO31_3&VBID=2K1HZO04CS3YG&IID=2K1HRGTRBLJ&PN=5

If you can do fine art photography there is no technical reason why you can't do commercial. Martin Parr does commercial so it is clearly possible for a fine art person to do it

If your fine art work is based around portraits then you could think of doing standard studio work.

If you're thinking of teaching there is nothing stopping you from doing adult education or running your own independent courses. Local unis' photography departments? Do they want people?

If you have a spare £9k then Annabel Williams mentoring course on becoming a pro photographer is supposed to be worth it.

Again it's the equipment I don't have money for that's stopping me from doing any real work as a photographer. There are so many pro's out there still using analogue technology but they're well established and the money's mostly in digital, even Martin Parr shoots mostly digital now

I was thinking about emailing Magnum about an apprenticeship in their archive department but if i had to fund the travel costs myself i'd never be able to afford it. They do it in New York but obviously that's out of the question.

1940sGal

Another thing re teaching, while i have a grade C GCSE in English, I only have an E in Maths. Would that count against me even though i'm now a mature student?

teabelly

You can get a second hand dslr for a few hundred quid. Mine was £250. I sold a picture taken with it. It's possible!

What analogue camera do you have?

1940sGal

teabelly wrote: »

You can get a second hand dslr for a few hundred quid. Mine was £250. I sold a picture taken with it. It's possible!

What analogue camera do you have?

I'm on JSA. I have about £5 to my name. And before anyone suggests it, no i don't have family who can help out.

I have a Mamiya RB67. Beautiful camera and I love it to bits.

teabelly

Have you got any work you can sell in local art galleries or cafes or anywhere?

I'd definitely get all your work scanned and online so people can see what you can do.

If your talent is in the theoretical side then why not write a book and sell it on amazon?

Start blogging. Get on twitter etc and just make a start at throwing yourself out there.

Look into funding options. There are some art grants floating around. If you can think of a 'worthy' community based inclusive kind of art project that might be a good stepping stone to something else.

No harm in writing to magnum and asking!

1940sGal

teabelly wrote: »

Have you got any work you can sell in local art galleries or cafes or anywhere?

I'd definitely get all your work scanned and online so people can see what you can do.

If your talent is in the theoretical side then why not write a book and sell it on amazon?

Start blogging. Get on twitter etc and just make a start at throwing yourself out there.

Look into funding options. There are some art grants floating around. If you can think of a 'worthy' community based inclusive kind of art project that might be a good stepping stone to something else.

No harm in writing to magnum and asking!

I've just started making things out of my cyanotypes to sell on sites such as Etsy and Folksy, see how that goes. Have considered the print route also via fairs/galleries. It's finding the right one's round here but it's definitely something to consider.

Have also given serious consideration to writing a book. Have looked in to different subjects. My dissertation did very well so have thought about expanding on that.

I also have a blog that is mostly about everyday stuff and not photography related which I've had great feedback from. It's spurred me on to get back in to story writing.

And definitely no harm in writing to Magnum. I'll send them something tomorrow. I contacted them before while at uni but then my nan died and parents split up and everything went a bit chaotic and i never got back to them. Will see tomorrow.

And thank you again, you've been very helpful and encouraging and I'm very grateful for it