Done something really silly

McKneff

hunters wrote: »

Wind up. This is not forgery

Exactly...................

If it isnt a wind up, you are over thinking.

Just get on with your life.

Paulywalnut

I'm not winding up, but possibly over thinking it and panicking, yes. I'll agree that I was surprised that she was being done for forgery, but apparently she is. They were looking at fraud but because she's not gaining money directly through it, they're looking at forgery.

maninthestreet

Conceivably, you might be considered to be party to a conspiracy to commit fraud by false reprensentation.

Paulywalnut

i hope not!

Uncertain

Paulywalnut wrote: »

I'm not winding up, but possibly over thinking it and panicking, yes. I'll agree that I was surprised that she was being done for forgery, but apparently she is. They were looking at fraud but because she's not gaining money directly through it, they're looking at forgery.

Assuming it was a paid job she applied for with the fake reference then it is about money.

Normally this would be "attempting to obtain a pecuniary advantage by deception".

Although it is not all that common people have also been charged with this offence for lying on job application forms.

Paulywalnut

Thanks for all the comments, helping to calm me down! I was worried that, as she is denying writing the reference, that they may think I've helped to do it, after they see the emails with my suggestions in. But I do say that I won't do that for her. As long as they don't think that, and don't say I helped with the suggestions then I should be ok. I'm still hoping my employer doesn't find out about my idea of asking then for a false reference, I think that's the worst trouble I could end up in. But I don't suppose the police would show them that email so I should be ok. I'll update if anything comes to light.

Savvy_Sue

If she's so good at the job, why is she having such difficulty with getting good references?

Paulywalnut

I'm not sure, I didn't delve. It was something to do with needing it ASAP I think, she needed it there and then. It does sound dodgy now, and I'm kicking myself. I just accepted she was telling the truth and I was desperate to help her.

Yorkie1

Uncertain wrote: »

Assuming it was a paid job she applied for with the fake reference then it is about money.

Normally this would be "attempting to obtain a pecuniary advantage by deception".

Although it is not all that common people have also been charged with this offence for lying on job application forms.

This offence was repealed from 15 January 2007 and was replaced by the offence of fraud.

So the person concerned could be facing an offence of fraud or, more probably given the previous posts, an offence of forgery (making a false instrument) contrary to s. of the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981, and/or an offence of using a false instrument contrary to s.3 of the same Act. An "instrument" means "any document, whether of a formal or informal character".

paddyrg

You can't get in trouble for bad advice - think how many members of this forum would be in prison if you could