Why is my tummy craving more food after this lentils soup dinner?

valk_scot

Bealer wrote: »

The dish does have beans, half an onion, ginger, garlic and chilli

Beans aren't a vegetable, they're a pulse. A portion of fruit or veg for you is the size of your own fist, half an onion and a few bits of garlic won't even make half a portion using my small hands. You need to be looking at five portions of F&V a day, remember, so if you're having just this for dinner and porridge for breakfast you're looking a bit light on the F&V side.

You need more fat and protein to feel full. It doesn't have to be meat based, you can have paneer, eggs, nuts, yoghurt, quorn, fish and seafood or milk for protein and add healthy fats from nuts, oily fish and things like olive oil. A mix of boiled pulses and rice with minimal oil and practically zero veg just isn't that nutritious if you're eating it every day and it's not ideal to be eating a whole 1000 calories of it either, it should be part of a more mixed and balanced meal. You don't just eat oats for breakfast after all, do you? You'll add milk/nuts/dried fruit etc?

Helen2k8

Mrs_Arcanum wrote: »

Soup should make you feel fuller for longer as it takes longer to digest. It does need to be thick rather than watery though.

I disagree

Soup - assuming we're talking about blended/smooth soup - is already partially broken down so the stomach enzymes have plenty of access to do their work.
As opposed to chunks of food swallowed that take longer to digest.

Hermia

Helen2k8 wrote: »

I disagree

Soup - assuming we're talking about blended/smooth soup - is already partially broken down so the stomach enzymes have plenty of access to do their work.
As opposed to chunks of food swallowed that take longer to digest.

A study was done which showed that soup did fill people up for longer (I'm not sure if it has been disproved).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8068733.stm

I remember seeing it on a documentary. They gave one group of soldiers (I think) a plate of food and a glass of water and the other group were given the food and water blended together.

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Hermia wrote: »

I think you just need to eat something else with it. My Indian relatives always have daal as a starter or a snack. I have never seen my Indian aunties just serve daal for dinner.

What she says (kinda)

Vegetarian Hindus & many non-veg south Asians will have a dal (with oil/butter to make tarka), rice and/or roti (flatbreads) plus vegetable dishes, often with a little protein such as paneer or egg incorporated, maybe another bean dish as well (eg chickpea curry). The meal will often also include an oil or fresh chutney/pickle plus some low-fat yogurt = a very filling balanced meal.

Huskless moong dal are quite delicate - try chana dal ( almost zero GI) or split (chilka) black urid dal. In Nepal where my hubby is from the standard meal is dal-rice-vegetables-pickle-salad. Try more rice with your dal too - the aim of dal is to moisten & sauce the rice, akin to Italian-style pasta & a bit of sauce.

I have a recipe here on MSE that details a good dal |& raita recipe. Be generous with your vegetarian Indian-style portions as it is so very healthy despite every dish being started or finished with a small spoon of oil (hey I'm still a fatty but my cholesterol is 4.2 )

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3961539

typical dal & rice meal:

valk_scot

That looks delicious. Even at 7am, lol.

Mrs_Arcanum

Helen2k8 wrote: »

I disagree

Soup - assuming we're talking about blended/smooth soup - is already partially broken down so the stomach enzymes have plenty of access to do their work.
As opposed to chunks of food swallowed that take longer to digest.

I am basing this on a program they did a year or so ago and they showed that soup stays in the stomach, where lumps of food are digested faster. They fed a group of trainee fire fighters exactly the same meal (food & calories). One half had the meal plus a glass of water, the other half had the glass of water used with the food blended into soup. The second group were fuller for longer and details showed the soup taking longer to be digested.

Bealer

joolzred wrote: »

What she says (kinda)

Vegetarian Hindus & many non-veg south Asians will have a dal (with oil/butter to make tarka), rice and/or roti (flatbreads) plus vegetable dishes, often with a little protein such as paneer or egg incorporated, maybe another bean dish as well (eg chickpea curry). The meal will often also include an oil or fresh chutney/pickle plus some low-fat yogurt = a very filling balanced meal.

Huskless moong dal are quite delicate - try chana dal ( almost zero GI) or split (chilka) black urid dal. In Nepal where my hubby is from the standard meal is dal-rice-vegetables-pickle-salad. Try more rice with your dal too - the aim of dal is to moisten & sauce the rice, akin to Italian-style pasta & a bit of sauce.

I have a recipe here on MSE that details a good dal |& raita recipe. Be generous with your vegetarian Indian-style portions as it is so very healthy despite every dish being started or finished with a small spoon of oil (hey I'm still a fatty but my cholesterol is 4.2 )

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3961539

typical dal & rice meal:

Thanks for the response. I will try to add more vegetables and salad to the dish.

I will definitely try Chana dal instead of split mung dal now. I mainly use split yellow mung dal and red lentils (in other dal dishes) because of their quick cooking process (I dont have a pressure cooker! . However, can I soak the chana dal for 12-15 hours before cooking (for example soak them the evening before, and change water in the morning for another 8 hours of soaking?), and then be able to cook them for about 25 mins, like mung dal?

I am looking with great interest at your Indian recipes.

Bealer

valk_scot wrote: »

Beans aren't a vegetable, they're a pulse. A portion of fruit or veg for you is the size of your own fist, half an onion and a few bits of garlic won't even make half a portion using my small hands. You need to be looking at five portions of F&V a day, remember, so if you're having just this for dinner and porridge for breakfast you're looking a bit light on the F&V side.

You need more fat and protein to feel full. It doesn't have to be meat based, you can have paneer, eggs, nuts, yoghurt, quorn, fish and seafood or milk for protein and add healthy fats from nuts, oily fish and things like olive oil. A mix of boiled pulses and rice with minimal oil and practically zero veg just isn't that nutritious if you're eating it every day and it's not ideal to be eating a whole 1000 calories of it either, it should be part of a more mixed and balanced meal. You don't just eat oats for breakfast after all, do you? You'll add milk/nuts/dried fruit etc?

True. I should definitely try to eat more fruit and vegs. I reckon I eat about 5 a day now, as I do eat both lunch and supper as well as breakfast and dinner (this is just one of many dinner dishes I eat ), but one can never get enough of it.

The half an onion used in this dish is the large type of onions, in addition to about 4-5 cloves of garlic and some ginger and chili.

However, I suspect that it is the yellow mung beans that are the culprit here, because I sometimes eat this spiced lentils soup with more vegetables too and I still dont feel full for a long time. Compare that to simply eating a bowl of oats, milk and a glass of juice and I feel stuffed for hours.

Fruball

They eat rice and beans on I'm a celebrity get me out of here I think and they are permanently hungry and most of them lose weight whilst in there.

It's not enough!

valk_scot

I'm wondering about this desire to feel "stuffed" after a meal? Perhaps what you're thinking is hunger is just the stuffed feeling going away? Sometimes people mistake the slightest feeling of being empty for actual hunger because they get used to the distended feeling of eating a big meal and belive that's the only time they're not hungry?

Might be worth trying to cut your portion sizes at the meal down a bit so you only eat till you're comfortably full rather than stuffed. But eat more often. So if you're having four meals totalling say 2,200 calories over the day (average intake for a moderately active woman of average size) then split the calories over six meals instead, so you even out the peaks and troughs. Obviously if you're a six foot bloke who does a lot of hard manual labour you'll need more calories but it's easy to look up a ball park figure for what you should be eating.