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House Fire Lost everything, I don't accept liability!
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The negligent act of leaving the dryer unattended caused the landlord's property to burn down, so you should be held liable for the cost of reinstatement IMO.
That's going a bit far. I'm sure lots of people leave their driers unattended. It's not recommended, but it's a big step from that to negligent.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
That's going a bit far. I'm sure lots of people leave their driers unattended. It's not recommended, but it's a big step from that to negligent.
a lot of people speed, but that doesn’t stop it from being negligent if they hit someone,
It may even say in the instructions to remove clothes from the dryer as soon as the cycle stops (as latent heat build up can be an issue), if you leave the house you have not followed the instructions, and so have been negligent in the operation of the appliance.
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The landlord is saying no one is to blame, that it's an unfortunate accident.0
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martinsurrey wrote: »a lot of people speed, but that doesn’t stop it from being negligent if they hit someone,
It may even say in the instructions to remove clothes from the dryer as soon as the cycle stops (as latent heat build up can be an issue), if you leave the house you have not followed the instructions, and so have been negligent in the operation of the appliance.
Hmm, just as an example, I tracked down a Hotpoint dryer user manual. AFAICS it does not say that it must not be left unattended. http://www.espares.co.uk/datastore/ProductManuals/869521.pdf
If you can find it in there, please say.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
I remember it was a Zanussi dryer and I found one on the manufacture's website that looks exactly the same.
In the instruction manual there is no warning about leaving it unattended, and it also mentions
"The final part of a tumble dryer cycle occurs without heat (cool down cycle) to ensure that the items are left at a temperature that ensures that items will not be damaged"
So leaving the items in there wouldn’t have been a problem.0 -
martinsurrey wrote: »a lot of people speed, but that doesn’t stop it from being negligent if they hit someone,
No no no.
Negligence is determined according to standard of act, not consequences.0 -
The landlord is saying no one is to blame, that it's an unfortunate accident.
Lucky then. If I were you, I'd keep my head down, mouth shut, take out contents insurance and never, ever, leave a tumble dryer or any other electrical equipment working while the house is unattended.
This could have been so much more costly in both money and lives. Wash your clothes a few times and only chuch what is truly unsalvageable - but I wouldnt antagonise the LL in any way if I were you.Debt Free! Long road, but we did it
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That's going a bit far. I'm sure lots of people leave their driers unattended. It's not recommended, but it's a big step from that to negligent.
Sorry... Probably should say that I was applying the OP's own logic to the situation. OP said "as I left the appliance unattended, that negligent act resulted in the loss of my belongings" so I was making the point that on that basis, he/she was also responsible for the landlord's losses. I.e. probably better not to mention it in this way to LL or in court!0 -
No no no.
Negligence is determined according to standard of act, not consequences.
sorry, I was just being dramatic, all speeding is negligent, but is not highlighted or punished due to the lack of a negative consequence, if you hit someone the police would look in to it and highlight the negligence and give you more than a slap on a wrist.
so I agree with your point.
My point was just to show that just because a lot of people do something, it doesn’t remove the fact it’s negligent.0 -
Not necessarily...martinsurrey wrote: »all speeding is negligent0
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