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  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,971 Forumite
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    LOL at the obsession. Good you now know. Line drying in the summer helped me a lot - I really noticed the difference in cost over the winter. 

    On the router they highly recommend not switching it off as it can make the box more likely to fail.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £24.3K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.2K) = 30.1/£127.5K target 23.6% 29/7/25
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.8K updated 29/7/25
  • SuperSecretSquirrel
    SuperSecretSquirrel Posts: 1,059 Forumite
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    edited 18 December 2022 at 10:34AM
    Thanks KC, SC, and SH 🙂

    KC - We've never had any problems arise from switching it off, but it's one of the few appliances that we tend to leave switched on at the wall 24/365. It's that, the fridge, the freezers, an alarm clock, a couple of phone chargers, and a night light, everything else is properly off at night or when the house is left empty. Even though it's quite high up the list, at 34p per kwh, we're talking (currently) £25 for the whole year, we'd save about 70p per month if we switched it off each night, not worth the bother for us 🙂 5 years ago we paid 13p per kwh, so if you switched it off for 8 hours each night back then you'd be looking at a saving of 27p per month.

    SC - I've completed about 5 surveys, can't see that becoming an obsession 🙄 I've read a novel that's been sat waiting for a while, I'll probably try to keep up a reading habit, but it won't become an obsession. I've spent 6 hours playing a new computer game already this weekend, it could easily become a bit of an obsession 😬 I've also started a little just for fun project, but it won't be something I'll be talking about on here 🤫

    SH - We'll definitely line dry whenever it's an option, but the times where it's not we'll continue to use the dryer as needed. Like the heating it's just another of those winter costs we have to swallow. I'd never heard that switching a router off was bad for its longevity, that advice has entirely passed me by until now! We don't switch it off as the plug is a bit of a pain to get to, and we like the option of wifi throughout the night in case we're awake for a while. Good to know that we're not being particularly wasteful, just following advice we'd never heard 🤣
  • Another thought on the dryer. Our old one died a few years ago. When we got our new one it blew our minds that it was clever enough to switch itself off when the clothes inside were dry. I shudder to think how much drying of dry clothes we used to do in the old one!

    Clever dryers, led TVs, led lights, condensing boilers, cordless vacuum cleaners. It seems whenever we replace something old and clapped out with something new and sparkling, much improved energy efficiency comes along as a welcome side effect.
  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,971 Forumite
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    Yes - I have a sensor dryer and it's great although it will randomly go off in the night as part of its anti-crease function if you don't open the door. 

    Our washing machines washes at 20 degrees so it bemuses me to see these adverts saying swap from 40 to 30 and save £70. I never have a problem and barely use a quarter of the recommended washing powder either.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £24.3K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.2K) = 30.1/£127.5K target 23.6% 29/7/25
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.8K updated 29/7/25
  • I switched from 40 to 30 and it was all a bit smelly, so I swapped back. But then my machine is 12 or 13 years old.... Just hoping it continues to limp on until I get the new kitchen 🤞!
    Mortgage start: £65,495 (March 2016)
    Cleared 🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️!!! In 5 years, 1 month and 29 days
    Total amount repaid: £72,307.03. £1.10 repaid for every £1.00 borrowed

    Finally earning interest instead of paying it!!!
  • Karmacat
    Karmacat Posts: 39,460 Forumite
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    edited 18 December 2022 at 2:55PM
    KC - We've never had any problems arise from switching it off, but it's one of the few appliances that we tend to leave switched on at the wall 24/365. It's that, the fridge, the freezers, an alarm clock, a couple of phone chargers, and a night light, everything else is properly off at night or when the house is left empty. Even though it's quite high up the list, at 34p per kwh, we're talking (currently) £25 for the whole year, we'd save about 70p per month if we switched it off each night, not worth the bother for us 🙂 5 years ago we paid 13p per kwh, so if you switched it off for 8 hours each night back then you'd be looking at a saving of 27p per month.

    .... I'd never heard that switching a router off was bad for its longevity, that advice has entirely passed me by until now! We don't switch it off as the plug is a bit of a pain to get to, and we like the option of wifi throughout the night in case we're awake for a while. Good to know that we're not being particularly wasteful, just following advice we'd never heard 🤣
    That's brilliant on all levels ✨ so it really does cost pennies to leave it on all the time (I like the ability to go online if I'm sleepless, though I could use the mobile internettage too) and that you're not being wasteful but following unknown advice 🤣

    PS - I never measure the laundry liquid, I'm **sure** I'm wasting some!
    2023: the year I get to buy a car
  • I'm not allowed to touch our washing machine 🤣 OH has a system, and under no circumstances short of a physical emergency (like an extended hospital stay) am I allowed to interfere 🤣

    She assures me that the vast majority of washes are at 30c (the lowest option on our machine) and she uses about half the recommended amount of detergent and softener. Everything always ends up clean as new, and if I'm honest I'd prefer even less detergent/softener as I find the fragrance a bit strong for my liking, but I won't win any debates regarding laundry, and I know which side my bread is buttered so it's a small price to pay 🤣

    Also I forgot to include the boiler as a 24/365 appliance (mostly on eco standby), and sometimes the extractor fans and dehumidifier are on when the house is empty or at night, but certainly not 24/365.
  • Quick change of subject... Financials!

    • The 7% regular saver is up and running and now has £300 in. The balance will increase by £300 automatically each month.
    • 4.5k personal + 3k joint in a 2.75% easy access account. This can be beaten now, but I'm not entirely sold on the more generous provider, so we're happy as we are for now.
    • PB rate increasing to 3% from the next draw, just in time for my big new year win 😉
    I haven't peeped at S&S or pension balances since October the 1st, trying to keep it a new years surprise for my new year round up. I wonder if I'll crack before then...

  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,971 Forumite
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    edited 20 December 2022 at 7:36PM
    I reckon you'll crack...

    LOL

    Well done on the savings shuffle.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £24.3K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.2K) = 30.1/£127.5K target 23.6% 29/7/25
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.8K updated 29/7/25
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