How much do NHS doctors in general earn?

TomC5

About a third (maybe even less) than what footballer Cristiano Ronaldo earns, anyone care to justify that?

System

ElDavido wrote: »

Yeah for a decade of learning and practice the highest I would go is £9/hour...

Pharmacists in Northern Ireland are getting £12 per hour, and they have trained hard for 5 years.

InsideInsurance

Anton123 wrote: »

I am a little surprised about these figures. I was expecting starting salaries to be higher and consultants to be earning well into six figures.

Those that do are doing private work, aren't directly employed by the NHS, have other "roles" - head of a department etc

Doctors are well paid but not exceptionally well if they just stick to the NHS but none of the consultants I've ever had have ever simply done NHS work.

Of cause Drs are also fairly well known for marrying within the profession and so you get a fair amount of couples both with good earnings which evidently helps the apparent wealth a lot.

colino

That website is absolute nonsense! Even in GP Magazine, they quote an average salary of £88,920 and remember a lot of GPs are either wholly self-employed or partners and earn considerably more.
The past decades cost-saving rationalisation of Doctors salaries/contracts has resulted in docs retaining a good, high income, but with less hours required to work.

horngkai

I do not consider GP as NHS doctors mainly bcos of the partnership. They earn considerably more than hospital doctors with less hours of work. Also, lots of consultant I met do not do private work especially the medical consultant. The surgeons, however, is slightly different.

enfermeiro

i work as a nurse and the doctors on my ward do get around what was posted in that nhs link however thats just the basic salary, everytime they do nights or weekends they get paid a large bonus so the salary goes up quite significantly.

pickpocketlocket

TomC5 wrote: »

About a third (maybe even less) than what footballer Cristiano Ronaldo earns, anyone care to justify that?

Considerably less than a third - more like 1/120th! But you're not comparing like for like, Ronaldo has a unique skill that cannot be taught, whereas medicine can be.

I do think footballers are paid too much, as are most "celebs", but in terms of the above, to make such a comparison is like comparing apples and pears.

sarahg1969

clemmatis wrote: »

The figures are for basic NHS pay only. And not all NHS consultants work full time -- many do private work as well.

While using their NHS staff to book their appointments and type up reports.

TomC5

pickpocketlocket wrote: »

Considerably less than a third - more like 1/120th! But you're not comparing like for like, Ronaldo has a unique skill that cannot be taught, whereas medicine can be.

I do think footballers are paid too much, as are most "celebs", but in terms of the above, to make such a comparison is like comparing apples and pears.

My mistake, I meant to put what he earns per week, which highlights the disparity even more!

On the comparison thing I do agree that they are very different jobs, but on the other hand I disagree with you saying that his skill cannot be taught, obviously there is some natural talent to it, but his ability has been nurtured over the years to reach the ridiculous heights that it is at now, just like the average science student can go on to become a specialist consultant or surgeon.

NeverEnough

sarahg1969 wrote: »

While using their NHS staff to book their appointments and type up reports.

That is not allowed and is a disciplinary offence. If a consultant uses their NHS secretary to do private reports, it has to be done in their own time. This is quite carefully scrutinised in the Trusts I have worked for and I have seen people disciplined for this behaviour before.

While GPs have seen a massive increase in income over the past decade, Hospital Doctors have not. There have been minimal increases over the past 10 years especially at consultant grade, and pay has been frozen for the past two years at the most senior levels.

A consultant taking a first consultant post will earn around £80,000 pa before tax, this rises with increments to £100,000 pa. Most Trusts have stopped paying extra for after hours work now and this is included in the contract, especially at consultant level. Medical Directors, who are usually Executive Board Members, are generally paid more, up to around £150k in the NHS and £200K in the private sector, but that position is like any other top executive position and carries a salary commensurate with board level positions.

In the private sector, a Consultant salary, fulltime with expectation of covering an after hours rota, is around £120K pa. i was recruiting consultants at this level a year ago and it has remained the same for the past 3 or 4 yearsor so.

Some, but certainly by no means the majority, of consultants do after hours work at BUPA and other private practice opportunities. Many do not - in fact, most of my colleagues certainly don't as the day job is difficult and onerous enough and they do want some time with their families too.

Its amazing just how spiteful and envious people are about doctors perceived wealth, but not much is said about ridiculous payments to sportsmen / footballers. Junor doctors actually get quite low rates of pay and struggle to pay for accommodation, professional college fees, medical defence society fees etc etc.