Can't get time off for interview

Aryndeneth

And as a last resort, maybe mention that if you can't be given the time off, you'll have to leave and get the temp agency to find you something else if you don't get the new job.

I commend and respect your loyalty but, as an individual, how many times does an opportunity like this come your way?

denla

Aryndeneth wrote: »

And as a last resort, maybe mention that if you can't be given the time off, you'll have to leave and get the temp agency to find you something else if you don't get the new job.

I commend and respect your loyalty but, as an individual, how many times does an opportunity like this come your way?

Since you don't want to be here, we won't keep you. You're to work to the full notice to leave and I won't give you a future reference.

Aryndeneth

denla wrote: »

Since you don't want to be here, we won't keep you. You're to work to the full notice to leave and I won't give you a future reference.

It's a temping job. What are they going to do if notice isn't worked? Breach of contract? No company is going to do that for even most high-paid perm jobs, let alone a temp. Cost outweighs benefit.

Won't give a reference? So what? Can't legally give an untrue bad reference and, since it's increasingly common for employers to not give references or just give a factual date from/ date to / job title reference (as they're so scared of saying something "wrong" that comes back to bite them) that it's really not seen as an indication of something amiss with the employee as it might once have been.

If the other references are good and/or the agency supply a reference to confirm feedback from other postings has been good, one missing reference has almost no impact.

Would you miss a job you really wanted to avoid losing a temping job? If the interview doesn't result in the job, you're still signed with the agency who can find something else for you.

denla

Aryndeneth wrote: »

It's a temping job. What are they going to do if notice isn't worked? Breach of contract? No company is going to do that for even most high-paid perm jobs, let alone a temp. Cost outweighs benefit.

Won't give a reference? So what? Can't legally give an untrue bad reference and, since it's increasingly common for employers to not give references or just give a factual date from/ date to / job title reference (as they're so scared of saying something "wrong" that comes back to bite them) that it's really not seen as an indication of something amiss with the employee as it might once have been.

If the other references are good and/or the agency supply a reference to confirm feedback from other postings has been good, one missing reference has almost no impact.

Would you miss a job you really wanted to avoid losing a temping job? If the interview doesn't result in the job, you're still signed with the agency who can find something else for you.

I think a reference saying the employee did not give adequate notice to leave is a very bad reference. It's factual and bad so you can't sue employer.

Aryndeneth

denla wrote: »

I think a reference saying the employee did not give adequate notice to leave is a very bad reference. It's factual and bad so you can't sue employer.

What enforcable notice is required for a temp role? All OP needs to do is explain that they left a temping job upon obtaining a perm role. As a recruiter I see that all the time and, if everything else about the candidate has convinced me they're right, I wouldn't be concerned.

Lovelyjoolz

Aryndeneth wrote: »

What enforcable notice is required for a temp role?

None. Don't listen to denla OP, he is talking out his !!!!!.

As an employer, I would be impressed if you spoke to me, explained how you do not wish to leave current employer in the lurch, and I would be very happy to reschedule an interview around your lunchtime or after/before work. They clearly already think you are a good candidate and this level of honesty and loyalty can only show you in a good light. That level of loyalty is great to have in an employee. And the fact that you are that loyal as a temp???? Jeez, if you were in Cardiff I'd employ you today.

denla - unfortunately, when you show that level of disrespect, disloyalty and dishonestly to an employer then you'll generally only be employed by bad employers who will treat you as poorly as you regard them. No decent employer will want someone like you working for them. You reap what you sow.

denla

Lovelyjoolz wrote: »

None. Don't listen to denla OP, he is talking out his !!!!!.

As an employer, I would be impressed if you spoke to me, explained how you do not wish to leave current employer in the lurch, and I would be very happy to reschedule an interview around your lunchtime or after/before work. They clearly already think you are a good candidate and this level of honesty and loyalty can only show you in a good light. That level of loyalty is great to have in an employee. And the fact that you are that loyal as a temp???? Jeez, if you were in Cardiff I'd employ you today.

denla - unfortunately, when you show that level of disrespect, disloyalty and dishonestly to an employer then you'll generally only be employed by bad employers who will treat you as poorly as you regard them. No decent employer will want someone like you working for them. You reap what you sow.

You talk as if OP is the only applicant now and ever. It's an employer's market out there. If you don't turn up for an interview, the job will be given to someone else. Everyone's replaceable. Employer won't likely put everyone else on hold and go out his way to reschedule a time to suit OP.

Let's say you interviewed 5 applicants (I've seen employers interview several dozen of applicants before). OP wants to reschedule another time that slightly inconvenients you. The first 4 applicants already performed really well in the interview. Why waste time interviewing OP when you can pick any one of those other 4 applicants who all did really well in the interview? It's easy to say you'd be impressed by honesty, but when it comes down to hiring people, you won't actually bother with OP if he tells you he can't turn up for the interview.

TrickyWicky

If all else fails, you've been ill in the night throwing up and can't possibly go to work the day of your interview.

Just be sure that when you try to talk the boss into legitimately going, you don't tell them the actual day - just mention "some time that week" or the day either side (which can be adjusted after they give you the green light).

Poppie68

Well all i can say is good look to the OP with the interview. This day and age you have to look after number 1.
They have taken a days leave so it is in their own time, so really can't understand why certain people are getting worked up.

Lovelyjoolz

denla wrote: »

It's easy to say you'd be impressed by honesty, but when it comes down to hiring people, you won't actually bother with OP if he tells you he can't turn up for the interview.

Again, no offense, but that's rubbish.

Do you know how hard it is to find a decent employee?? Pretty much all good employers want to recruit once, find the best person and not have to fork out the thousands it costs to hire someone when you get it wrong.

The OP had already been shortlisted from a VERY large number of applicants. The Employers wants to see her. And once the employer realises the qualities the OP can bring to the company, they will want to see her even more.

I've interviewed candidates out of office hours before OP. It's not uncommon. I've even travelled a substantial distance and met a candidate in a coffee shop close to where they were working because they couldn't get more than 30 minutes break and I believed that they were the perfect person for the job. I was right. They still work for me 15 years later.