More apprenticeships - government consultation

baldelectrician

This thread was prompted by me reading another thread and noticing a Scottish Government Consultation
It suggests all companies that win a public contract be required to submit an apprenticeship work plan.
More info HERE

This stems from the baldelectrician going to a tv debate in Scotland last year;, although I suggested this (and thought of it on my own), other brainy people came up with it aswell

The part relating to the provision of apprenticeships in Scotland is in Part 2 , 8 min 10 sec in.
I need to put a health warning in here- you will actually see the baldelectrician on TV, so don't watch if you have a sensetive disposition :rotfl:

To sum up, the Scottish Government have announced that they have made the provision of apprenticeships a requirement when they directly award a contract- every company that gets a contract awarded must have an apprenticeship proposal that is acceptible in order to have a contract.

This is in place for all direct contracts, but it does not affect contracts spending government money in Scotland (such as health service contracts or local authority contracts). This consultation will close this loophole and make it a requirement to provide apprenticeships

Remember- this is about spending the same money as was going to be spent, but about spending it more wisely

It does not require companies to take apprentices on, but it DOES require ones that want to have government money to train people

gibson123

Hi baldelectrician great minds and all that, this is something that has been on the agenda for 10 years! it was difficult because of EU procurement rules, however there are legal ways round this, some Councils have been putting in Community clauses for 5 years now, the government is just catching up.

baldelectrician

hi gibson123

It seems to be ages in the coming, but I find the Scottish Government set a trail for others to follow

They have introduced this policy for all directly awarded contracts over £100k, and are consulting to change the law for contracts awarded by government departments

This isn't rocket science and sometimes it takes a fresh approch

Remember the previous Scottish Government introduced mandatory registration of landlords and now have tightened up landlord legislation in Scotland further. Now upto £50,000 fine if you rent and don't register.

colino

At the same time they are looking to improve transparency in government tenders and making >£100k projects easier to bid for by SME's. All absolute !!!!!!!!. Same PQQ required, same approved lists being passed around and all of the successful applicants already, amazingly, have the governments endorsed training framework in place.

gibson123

baldelectrician wrote: »

hi gibson123

It seems to be ages in the coming, but I find the Scottish Government set a trail for others to follow

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I beg to differ, if you dig a bit deeper you may find that local government is way ahead and the Scottish Government is doing the usual playing catch up, finally getting behind this and taking all the credit, but then that's politics for you. Personally I don't care as long as our young people get a decent start to their careers.

baldelectrician

gibson123 wrote: »

I beg to differ, if you dig a bit deeper you may find that local government is way ahead and the Scottish Government is doing the usual playing catch up, finally getting behind this and taking all the credit, but then that's politics for you. Personally I don't care as long as our young people get a decent start to their careers.

I agree and disagree.

When I brought this up to Iain Grey and Alex Salmond on the telly last year Iain Grey said 2 of the councils did this already

It beggars belief that nobody bothered to consider bringing this in as government policy (Labour didn't bother pre 2007), the SNP are doing it now

My point is that Labour made the right noises but failed to implement- the SNP have inplemented (for direct contracts already) and are consulting about legislation for indirect contracts.

I agree that I just care that something is done