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Holiday Entitlement

fishlady
fishlady Posts: 4 Newbie
edited 26 August 2012 at 9:01PM in Employment, jobseeking & training
Hi, I wonder if someone could answer a query regarding holiday entitlement. I work part time in an office working 17 hours a week. I work 3 days a week consisting of 5 3/4 hrs on Tuesday, 6 hrs on Wednesdays and 5 1/4 on Thursdays.
The company entitlement for holiday gives 22 days and 8 days bank holidays and the full timers work 35hrs a week.

Can anyone advise what my annual entitlement is please

Many thanks

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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    edited 26 August 2012 at 9:33PM
    3* 6 is 18 hours, so why only 17hours ?

    With 3 equal days you get 3/5th of the full timers, 30 * 3/5 = 18days

    edit...............
    silent edit by the OP now the hours are different.

    done in hours its is 17/35 * 30*7 = 102

    take the hours off for the days you take

    the other way is full timers get 6 weeks so you get 6 weeks or 102 hours.

    still 18 average days
  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    7 hr day x 30 days = 210 hrs full time.

    17/35 = .4857 x 210 is 102 hours. Approx 14.5 days (as your hours change each day)

    That's how hols are calculated where I work anyway
  • where I work we would leave it in hours, then when a part time person has a day off, they would deduct the number of hours for that particular day (if their days are uneven like yours). so for example if you had a Thursday off, you would deduct 5 hrs 15 mins.
    Your 102 hours would therefore give you approx 18 days holiday.
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  • KiKi
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    7 hr day x 30 days = 210 hrs full time.

    17/35 = .4857 x 210 is 102 hours. Approx 14.5 days (as your hours change each day)

    That's how hols are calculated where I work anyway

    If you don't work the same hours each day, then you keep the leave in hours, not in days. :)


    OP, you get 102 hours paid leave a year. What this means in practice is that whenever you take a day off, those hours that you *would* have worked come off that total.

    If it's a Bank Holiday and your business is closed, then the hours you would have worked that day need to come off that total of 102. If it's a Bank Holiday and you're not due to work then nothing happens (no time in lieu or anything).

    KiKi
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  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    KiKi wrote: »
    If you don't work the same hours each day, then you keep the leave in hours, not in days. :)


    OP, you get 102 hours paid leave a year. What this means in practice is that whenever you take a day off, those hours that you *would* have worked come off that total.

    If it's a Bank Holiday and your business is closed, then the hours you would have worked that day need to come off that total of 102. If it's a Bank Holiday and you're not due to work then nothing happens (no time in lieu or anything).

    KiKi

    So much better an explanation than mine - sorry OP I'm not good at explaning (but the hours are the same) :rotfl:

    We do most AL in hours for PT staff (don't know why, just the way we do it). Even if they have regular days - the system is based on hours - so equating to days leaves me a bit lost.
  • Many thanks for the reply's and sorry for the edit at the start, i did edit the hours just after i posted but for some reason it didn't change properly... Will go to work armed with the replies as i've been told i only get 10 days holiday worked out at 17/35 x 22 and not entitled to bank holidays as i only work tues,wed & thursdays.. and they not rounding the 10.68 days to 11 saying they don't have to!

    Thanks again everyone
  • Printing off the page and re-reading, can you explain where the 102 days comes from please
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    102 HOURS.

    Holidays are actualy worked out in weeks.

    days and hours are used where weeks don't work.

    statutory minimum is 5.6 weeks so 28 days for a full time(5days+)

    The rules are you have to be treated equal to a full time employee on a prorata basis.

    The full timers get 30 days which is 6 weeks

    6 weeks for you is 6*17hours so 102 hours.

    because your days are not equal it is easier to do this in hours based on the days you take.
  • anamenottaken
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    fishlady wrote: »
    Many thanks for the reply's and sorry for the edit at the start, i did edit the hours just after i posted but for some reason it didn't change properly... Will go to work armed with the replies as i've been told i only get 10 days holiday worked out at 17/35 x 22 and not entitled to bank holidays as i only work tues,wed & thursdays.. and they not rounding the 10.68 days to 11 saying they don't have to!

    Thanks again everyone

    To emphasise -
    Though you don't normally work on most bank holidays you are entitled to the pro rated equivalent. So, in a standard year, you are entitled to a proportion of the 8 days. [Remember that not all bank holidays are on Mondays or Fridays: Christmas and New Year are often different.]

    When they have worked out in days and say they don't have to round up, they are wrong. The regulations allow for fractions to be rounded up but never down. [That applies even when the fraction is less than a half and the usual convention would be to round down.]

    What happened for full-time staff when there was the extra bank holiday? Did they get that day off with pay? If so, did it reduce the 20 discretionary days or are they entitled to 9 bank holidays this year? Did you work on the Tuesday? If so, were you paid for it?

    When does the organisation's holiday year run from (1 January, 1 April or some other date)? Or does each member of staff have an individual holiday year, running from the start of their employment?
  • Hi, Sorry for my late reply.. When there was the extra bank holiday on the Tuesday everyone took it off as the company allowed it without affecting our holiday entitlement so that was a good thing.
    The holiday year runs from 1st Jan to 31st Dec

    Many thanks for all your replies.. Have a meeting tomorrow so will be taking all the responses with me.. :-)
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