Being forced to work long hours- what to do?

sniggings

an9i77 wrote: »

Maybe all the other chefs are too busy working ridiculous hours to go on MSE?

So they know then, why would they have to come on here to find out something they already know

an9i77

sniggings wrote: »

So they know then, why would they have to come on here to find out something they already know

Well I am sure there are other posts they can come on here to read, not just this one!

sniggings

an9i77 wrote: »

Well I am sure there are other posts they can come on here to read, not just this one!

what :rotfl: I think you have confused yourself.

They could also eat a cheese and onion sandwich whilst reading the other posts, that too has as much to do with the quote of yours my point was addressing.

DKLS

I see the catering industry hasn't changed much since I last worked in it, and am surprised people are actually shocked by the hours involved. :rotfl:

I used to resort to lots of pro-plus, coffees and grab food/fuel whenever you could, if I was lucky the head chef would give me a wee dab of his secret ingredient, which meant I could work through the night.

Had some great times in catering, hard work but potentially very rewarding, and if you prove yourself promotions galore.
A good friend of mine worked with me as "Underwater ceramic technician" he is now the general manager of a 5* hotel (and still working mega long hours)

C_Mababejive

shellsuit wrote: »

My husband is a lift engineer and when he's on call (as well as doing his normal 50 hour week), there are times when he will get home at 2/3/4am and start work again at 7.30am the next morning.

Your husbands employer is breaking the law if they are forcing him to do these hours.Presumably he also drives? How can this be considered a safe working environment?

C_Mababejive

custardy wrote: »

That is the catering industry
You obviously don't know it
Most staff working in catering will get an opt out with the paperwork for bank details etc to fill in on day 1.
Hotels etc don't run on 8 hour days
My longest 'shift' in catering was over 30 hours!
Quite simply,as long as WTR has an opt out,it will be used by employers

My OH works in a high end Edinburgh hotel
she is often home at 4am from work after starting at 2pm
sometimes on an 8am start that next day

I appreciate that but they are still breaking the law. It should not be a condition of employment that you have to sign an opt out.

C_Mababejive

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Ask the entire haulage industry who were completely incensed that someone from Brussels could dictate to them how much they could work and therefore earn.

You'll not find many employees in truck driving supporting the WTD.

And why? Because they have to work longer hours to make a decent living because they are being exploited. Thank god for digital tachographs though even these are abused i.e loading time being booked in as rest time etc.. Do we really want half knackered truckers wobbling up and down our motorways?

C_Mababejive

sniggings wrote: »

If you have a family and getting on in years and know that if you loose your job it will be hard to find another, then maybe you too will sign a form when your boss asks you too, you know he is asking for a reason, you know he wants you to sign the form, it would take a strong person to say no, sorry I'm not signing.

Maybe you work in a big company but most people don't, they work beside their boss in a lot of cases, saying no will not go down too well and will most probably have you marked as a trouble maker or even sacked.

I know all this. It doesnt legalise it or make it right.

n that position if it were unduly detrimental and exploitative for me to sign, i would not sign. I appreciate that sometimes it is mutually beneficial to sign and its great if there are mutual and real benefits but i would not allow some flashman bullyboy to take advantage of me.

custardy

C_Mababejive wrote: »

I appreciate that but they are still breaking the law. It should not be a condition of employment that you have to sign an opt out.

its not,its entirely optional
of course you won't be working there long,but its not a condition

Pennywise2012

sniggings wrote: »

sorry not being rude but do you work? Yes, I've been employed, self-employed, and a manager. have you worked for a wage that is close or the min wage? It was early in my career, but yeah did you read the bit were the OP's boss demoted someone for a daft reason? I'm proper good at reading, me did you read the part were the OP's boss told then to "just get on with it" and "we are doing long hours too".Yes, that's why I suggested an approach that won't get the poor girl sacked - they're unreasonable and she needs to get them on side

I understand where your coming from but when the Government can't even see that all employees need a break and 11 hours between shifts etc why would we expect more from employers.

I hope your advice works for the OP but reading what I have about them, I can't see how one min they are making a young person work 14-15 hours a day to go to "ok you can do 8 hours love".No, they generally just sack/demote people.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if she's bolshy with them, they'll just sack her. Since she's not quit of her own accord, I assume she doesn't want that. My suggestion came from me thinking, "If I was a slave-driving, sack-happy, awful manager, what approach might work?"

It was not my intention to come across as someone who has never worked, would be lucky to get min wage if I did, and can't read :rotfl: