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Help getting rid of credit card debt

Hi,

Its safe to say that I haven't been the best with money since I left uni 8 years ago, amassing a fair amount of debt over that time. It has always been in a reasonable amount of control as I have a steady, decent paid job.

I recently finished a 5 year loan with my bank HSBC and now am left with a number of credit cards (6 to be precise) with debts totalling around £13000 spread over them. 4 of the cards are closed so that I cannot use them and just pay them off at minimum payment each month, 2 of them are open and I use occasionally if I struggle at the end of the month.

I really want to get a loan to clear all these debts, shut all the cards down and live like a normal person, but I can't seem to get one anywhere. I have only been late on 1 payment across all my debts in the last 2 years and have no other anomalies on my credit rating.

I think the fact that I have so much credit available to me (if I was to reopen the closed credit cards) is stopping people giving me a loan, but there isn't much I can do about that as I can't pay off the cards.

Does anyone have any advice? Would it help if I was to go into my bank and explained the situation to them, or would they still just look at my credit rating?

Thanks in advance for any help!!
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  • Therese1
    Therese1 Posts: 160 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 100 Posts Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Well done for stopping the bus and asking to get off! Recognising and deciding to deal with your debt is a huge and important step : )

    I am sure there will be much more detailed advise along later ( you have come to the right place) but my thoughts are:

    Get all your info on the cards together to see exactly where you are. How much on each card and what is the interest rate. Then work out what mOney you have each month to give to the debt. Pay the minimum amounts to the 5 lower interest one and the rest -more than min -to the highest interest. When that one is cleared work down in the same way with the others. At first some folk like to pay off the smallest debt so that they feel good about a quick clearance -this may be an option but work out which way feels best for you.

    Also if you can close all of the cards or leave just one open with a small credit then you'll have better chance of avoiding temptation to build on your debt.

    To get more ideas on how to save on your existing spending post a Statement of Affairs -info at top _ and you'll get loads of hep.

    Good luck
  • Hi Jock,

    Would you not be able to transfer some of the debt onto 0% cards?? A friend of mine was in a similar situation recently and the bank did agree to a consolidation loan but at a rate of 20%!! If your credit history is good then you should be able to get a good balance transfer deal.

    Good luck ;)
  • jock23
    jock23 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Well I have tried low rate or interest free cards yes, but I wasn't successful in the application. I can't see why apart from the amount of credit I already have?
  • orcocan
    orcocan Posts: 272 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    hello and welcome

    the key issue here is that your outgoings are higher than your income, so you need to fix that issue first. Refinancing your debt, which seems to be your main concern, should not be a priority at all at this stage. Getting another loan will not really help you unless you fix the underlying issue FIRST.

    I'd suggest you start posting your SOA here and lots of people will be able to give you good advice.

    Good luck! :-)
  • jock23
    jock23 Posts: 16 Forumite
    How do I do that?
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    jock23 wrote: »
    .... I recently finished a 5 year loan with my bank HSBC and now am left with a number of credit cards (6 to be precise) with debts totalling around £13000 spread over them [current situation: debt = £13000]. 4 of the cards are closed so that I cannot use them and just pay them off at minimum payment each month, 2 of them are open and I use occasionally if I struggle at the end of the month.

    I really want to get a loan to clear all these debts [proposed future situation: debt = £13000], shut all the cards down and live like a normal person, but I can't seem to get one anywhere. I have only been late on 1 payment across all my debts in the last 2 years and have no other anomalies on my credit rating.

    I think the fact that I have so much credit available to me (if I was to reopen the closed credit cards) is stopping people giving me a loan, but there isn't much I can do about that as I can't pay off the cards.

    Does anyone have any advice? Would it help if I was to go into my bank and explained the situation to them, or would they still just look at my credit rating?
    Your answer to having too much debt is to pay it off with another loan and have the same debt somewhere else?

    If you can't pay off the cards, then most lenders would make the calculation that you could not pay off a loan. The only answer is to cut your spending to well within your income and use the surplus to pay down your debt. The only way to clear debt is to pay it off with money which is entirely yours in the first place.
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  • orcocan
    orcocan Posts: 272 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    jock23 wrote: »
    How do I do that?

    Input all your details here
    http://www.stoozing.com/msoc/soacalc.php

    then you can export into MSE format and paste it here
  • jock23
    jock23 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Firstly, this isn't a post because I can't pay my debts. I have struggled whilst paying off my loan but now I am finished it is getting much easier. My aim at getting a loan was so that I could pay the debt off at a lower rate and quicker....

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 1
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1635
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1635
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 262
    Rent.................................... 150
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 115
    Electricity............................. 60
    Gas..................................... 53
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 35
    Telephone (land line)................... 17.5
    Mobile phone............................ 27
    TV Licence.............................. 14.5
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 10
    Groceries etc. ......................... 150
    Clothing................................ 5
    Petrol/diesel........................... 30
    Road tax................................ 8.5
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 17
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 70
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 10
    Haircuts................................ 10
    Entertainment........................... 40
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1084.5

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 8500
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 8500

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 8250.....(262)......10.9
    Total secured & HP debts...... 8250......-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................1038......25........15.9
    Egg World......................2522......62........15.9
    Barclaycard....................2100......76........15.9
    HSBC...........................1976......50........15.8
    Virgin.........................2143......51........15.9
    Mint...........................3631......82........15.9
    Total unsecured debts..........13410.....346.......-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,635
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,084.5
    Available for debt repayments........... 550.5
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 346
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 204.5
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 8,500
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -8,250
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -13,410
    Net Assets.............................. -13,160
  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 23,282 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Cashback Cashier
    It's going to be a long haul to get debt free on that SoA. The expenditure looked reasonable to me if it's realistic. I did wonder about the lack of car insurance. If you pay annually you still need to divide by 12 and put a figure in.

    Normally the advice is to overpay the debt with the highest apr first (snowballing) but if they're all the same then I'd suggest overpaying the lowest balance first.

    When you get to zero and phone to cancel, ask if they have any 0% balance transfer deals, and keep an eye on this thread:

    unofficial BT deals
  • tiny_courageous
    tiny_courageous Posts: 1,275 Forumite
    edited 25 August 2012 at 3:18PM
    A few thoughts

    What's the HP for? The car, I presume?

    Looking at your SOA, it's not too bad, you need to include car insurance, do you not have contents insurance?

    You're only spending £30 a month on petrol - do you realistically need the car?

    If you're not getting balance transfer offers, you could ask your current credit cards if they could freeze/reduce the interest and close the card so you can't spend any more on it. This can be an option if they ever put the interest rate up as well.
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