Topic for debate

macaque_2

Discuss

Netherlands
Population density - 393 people per square kilometre
Average house price - €4,271 per square metre

UK
Population density - 244 peopl per square kilometer
Average house price - €15,187 per square metre

The Dutch housing market saw the steepest price decline on record in July, continuing the trend of recent months.

Prices fell 8% year-on-year, statistics bureau CBS reported on Tuesday, the worst slump since the agency started records 17 years ago.

http://www.opp-connect.com/index.php?option=com_postwebsites&view=postnews&id=437

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/square-meter-prices

abaxas

Hamish wont let it happen.

chewmylegoff

macaque wrote: »

Discuss

Netherlands
Population density - 393 people per square kilometre
Average house price - €4,271 per square metre

UK
Population density - 244 peopl per square kilometer
Average house price - €15,187 per square metre


http://www.opp-connect.com/index.php?option=com_postwebsites&view=postnews&id=437

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/square-meter-prices

my calculations are that the average house in the netherlands has a footprint of approximately 50-55 square metres, whereas the UK average is apparently 13 square metres.

13 square metres is a box approximately 3.6 metres square (about 140 square feet), otherwise known as one pretty small double bedroom.

so, the outcome of this discussion is that the price / square metre figures are clearly nonsense (definitely for the UK and probably for the netherlands as well as 50sq metres is a 1 bed flat).

Mr._Pricklepants

Macaque 'forgot' to mention

Average per square metre (sq. m.) prices in US$/€ of 120-sq. m. apartments located in the centre of the most important city of each country

The desperation index is reaching new highs.

robmatic

Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »

Macaque 'forgot' to mention



The desperation index is reaching new highs.

That's a bit of a fail.

Upmarket areas in Edinburgh are about £3000/sq. metre so maybe they're due a bit of HPI?

Loughton_Monkey

chewmylegoff wrote: »

my calculations are that the average house in the netherlands has a footprint of approximately 50-55 square metres, whereas the UK average is apparently 13 square metres.

13 square metres is a box approximately 3.6 metres square (about 140 square feet), otherwise known as one pretty small double bedroom.

so, the outcome of this discussion is that the price / square metre figures are clearly nonsense (definitely for the UK and probably for the netherlands as well as 50sq metres is a 1 bed flat).

You have to remember that macaque is a leading light in the so-called 70% club.

My understanding of its objective is to ensure that all statistics given are at least 70% wrong - either way - compared to true figures.

To be a member, you have to prove that you are financially illiterate and cannot use a calculator. You also have to agree to be buried 20 foot deep when you die [because deep down, they're nice people].

ash28

macaque wrote: »

Discuss

Netherlands
Population density - 393 people per square kilometre
Average house price - €4,271 per square metre

UK
Population density - 244 peopl per square kilometer
Average house price - €15,187 per square metre


http://www.opp-connect.com/index.php?option=com_postwebsites&view=postnews&id=437

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/square-meter-prices

Except the average property in the Netherlands sold for 214k euros in Q1 2012 - .

The figures you're quoting for the Netherlands are for The Hague and Amsterdam.

Your figures for the UK would make the average (80 square metres) house £1.2million.

The figures you're using are for Central London and other upmarket areas of London.

The info is from the links you provided.

purch

Who would want to live in Dutchland anyway ?

Most of the country is 6 foot below sea level (and falling :eek:) and they make you wear wooden shoes in case the dykes burst.

JonnyBravo

macaque wrote: »

Discuss

Netherlands
Population density - 393 people per square kilometre
Average house price - €4,271 per square metre

UK
Population density - 244 peopl per square kilometer
Average house price - €15,187 per square metre


http://www.opp-connect.com/index.php?option=com_postwebsites&view=postnews&id=437

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/square-meter-prices

OMG! Prices in Holland are soooooo cheap! Thanks for that info macaque.

Wookster wrote: »

Headlines:
1 in 4 homes in negative equity forecast in Summer 2013
Borrowing up to 12x income

No, its not somewhere in Southern Europe but in Holland!

Full article here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/20/dutch-property-crisis-idUSL6E8JGBS920120820

Oh no!! Prices in Holland are soooo expensive!! A bubble about to burst!! Thanks wookster.



So which is it?
And does it really matter to me?