Potential Career Earnings dilemma.....please help

MiddyMum

Dunroamin wrote: »

Mmm, I thought you hadn't put the two desires together.

I can still be positive though, who knows what may happen by then. It almost seems like you want me to fail.

moneycantbuyyoulove

I have worked as a nurse for the nhs since 1997. Unlike you I am not in the least bit ambitious - I went into nursing to nurse, not for the money, pension or status.

As I'm sure you know, there are only a certain number of places for trainee midwives as the government have a limited pot to fund them and as a result the courses are always oversubscribed. It would be a shame for you to take one of these places to then take your skills and work in the private sector because it would be more lucrative - not ethical at all in my opinion.

There is nothing wrong with ambition and enthusiasm and you seem to have a great work ethic, and no doubt these skills would take you far in midwifery but it seems from your posts that you are very money driven so please take your skills and ambition and use them in a 'non-caring' profession.

I have found that qualified nhs staff are well paid with great pension benefits but this is a bonus, the 'caring profession' is all about that; 'caring'.

MiddyMum

moneycantbuyyoulove wrote: »

I have worked as a nurse for the nhs since 1997. Unlike you I am not in the least bit ambitious - I went into nursing to nurse, not for the money, pension or status.

As I'm sure you know, there are only a certain number of places for trainee midwives as the government have a limited pot to fund them and as a result the courses are always oversubscribed. It would be a shame for you to take one of these places to then take your skills and work in the private sector because it would be more lucrative - not ethical at all in my opinion.

There is nothing wrong with ambition and enthusiasm and you seem to have a great work ethic, and no doubt these skills would take you far in midwifery but it seems from your posts that you are very money driven so please take your skills and ambition and use them in a 'non-caring' profession.

I have found that qualified nhs staff are well paid with great pension benefits but this is a bonus, the 'caring profession' is all about that; 'caring'.

Well you are entitled to your opinion.

getmore4less

MiddyMum wrote: »

From speaking to midwives already in the profession, they say most midwives don't progress past band 6. Or maybe that is just the ones who don't want too...

Top of 6 is £34k add 20%-30% for enhanced rates, £40k should be easy(Sundays BH base+60% rest 30%.)

Get involved in the career options, managment or consultant 8c is a target £67k

honeypop

MiddyMum wrote: »

find me a student nurse or midwife that does not work part time and I will eat my hat.

My sister is in 3rd year of being a student nurse (adult nursing) and has not been able to have a part time job in the whole of that time, due to the amount of studying, coursework and placements, which are of varying lengths and shifts so not easy at all to work a job around.

mildred1978

honeypop wrote: »

My sister is in 3rd year of being a student nurse (adult nursing) and has not been able to have a part time job in the whole of that time, due to the amount of studying, coursework and placements, which are of varying lengths and shifts so not easy at all to work a job around.

An old school friend has just qualified as a nurse (at 36 with 2 kids) and also couldn't work alongside the training.

Hmm71

MiddyMum, just wanted to say good luck to you, I'm sure you will make the right decision for you and your daughter in the end. There's nothing wrong with a bit of ambition and wanting a decent standard of living BUT when it comes right down to it, as long as you don't mind cleaning up blood, poo and vomit at three in the morning, over and over again then you'll be a great midwife.

Idiophreak

getmore4less wrote: »

Get involved in the career options, managment or consultant 8c is a target £67k

Which, to be fair, is still cutting things fine for the OP. Private school on a single 67k income would be a push at the best of times, without saving half your salary and the other lifestyle ideals I suspect the OP has...Seems evident that whatever career OP chooses, she's going to have to attack it ferociously to get the traction she's after in just 8 years...

OP, I think it's worth some serious thought as to whether this is really what you want. If you're serious about earning the kind of wage you want, in the time frame you're talking about, you're going to have to put *a lot* of time and energy into your career (whatever path you choose) for the next 8 years...And it's just not possible to do that without compromising on the amount of time and energy you can give your daughter. You have to decide whether the private schooling and "better" lifestyle is worth missing out on a lot of time with her in her younger years...

MiddyMum

Hmm71 wrote: »

MiddyMum, just wanted to say good luck to you, I'm sure you will make the right decision for you and your daughter in the end. There's nothing wrong with a bit of ambition and wanting a decent standard of living BUT when it comes right down to it, as long as you don't mind cleaning up blood, poo and vomit at three in the morning, over and over again then you'll be a great midwife.

Thank you for the recent replies...

Hmm71, I dont mind doing this at all. Apart from 2 years where I worked in banking and retail all I have done is care work. I really enjoy it, it is rewarding and I don't seem to notice the bodily fluids thing now, it's just part of the job.

I had a good think about all of this last night and I have decided to carry on as I am. If I was to go into finance, I would have £40k debt in 3 years, I know it is a small amount of my wages each month but still I would rather not have that at the start of my career! I am just going to continue on my path as I have worked so hard to get to this point . I will just have to work my backside off when the time comes. I hope it all pays of. There is a nurse on the house deposit thread, that clears sometimes £2500 a month after tax, but she does a lot of overtime in a month 95-100 hours etc and must be exhausted but least she has been able to do it and has cleared off her entire mortgage.

MiddyMum

Idiophreak wrote: »

Which, to be fair, is still cutting things fine for the OP. Private school on a single 67k income would be a push at the best of times, without saving half your salary and the other lifestyle ideals I suspect the OP has...Seems evident that whatever career OP chooses, she's going to have to attack it ferociously to get the traction she's after in just 8 years...

OP, I think it's worth some serious thought as to whether this is really what you want. If you're serious about earning the kind of wage you want, in the time frame you're talking about, you're going to have to put *a lot* of time and energy into your career (whatever path you choose) for the next 8 years...And it's just not possible to do that without compromising on the amount of time and energy you can give your daughter. You have to decide whether the private schooling and "better" lifestyle is worth missing out on a lot of time with her in her younger years...

Reading the posts that I have read yesterday, the private school thing seems to have stopped me in my tracks a little. The only " things " I have ever wanted in my life was to have my own house paid for and to send my daughter to a good school. Later, I may also want to invest in various oppurtunities to make my savings work a bit harder for me. Although, I now realise that in order for me to achieve all of these dreams I may have to invest my time/money in tutoring her to get her up to scratch for passing the scholarship tests. Although, I am just theorising here as she is already showing signs of a very bright little girl and it may not be as hard work as I imagine. Her father, albeit a very unambitious man was a member of the gifted childrens association as a child so I am not overly surprised that she is starting to show little pockets of excellence. She can count to 15 and is developing quite a vocabulary already for a 2 year old. For some of the schools I have looked at, scholarships and bursaries would give me a very substantial discount in fees.