Hairdressing - Poorly paid, but above board?

ianianian_2

Thanks Mildred - i'm clearly going to open up a can of worms here, but it needs to be done!

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Does she have any p60's?

ianianian_2

Just found one - i'm not impressed. It was a couple of years old, but either she was being paid £3 an hour (at age 20) or the boss has made up a number just under the tax threshold. Just trying to work out what the implications are. My little sister doesn't have a clue about this type of thing - sounds like the boss and her accountant are taking advantage of their staff.

marybelle01

Does your "little sister" know that you are posting her business on a public forum, "opening cans of worms", and rooting through her things to find her wage slips? I'm not opposed to looking after "little sisters" - but shouldn't you be sure that she wants you to look after her before you do? I'd be pretty annoyed at my "little brother" (who at six foot five inches, isn't quite a "little" as he used to be) did this to me. Wouldn't it be better to let her decide what questions she wants to ask, if she wants to ask any, and do it herself?

MissSarah1972

No one has mentioned she allowed a 20 min break per day!

Notmyrealname

ianianian wrote: »

· The £210 is after tax. From what you’ve said it’s about NMW despitethe years of training without much hope of an increase.
· The 20 days excludes bank holidays. They do getbank holidays which are not included in the aforementioned 20 days.

So in fact apart from the fact it is a typical poorly paid hairdressing job there's nothing actually wrong.

Glad that has been cleared up then.

getmore4less

£210 is below min wge for the hours [STRIKE]BUT AIUI they can include the tips.[/STRIKE]

they can't include the tips.
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/ruDetail?itemId=1083015521&site=1000&type=REGUPDATE

Time to chase up the actual pay NI etc. sshould be a P60 for each year she was working April 5.

If you can pull al the info together and it looks like the buiness may be pulling a fast one a min wage complaint to HMRC might be worth considering.

Early 20's might be a good time to look at beginers business/self employment night classes or similar.

The other thing she needs to do is start looking at how the business is run what the customer profile is when they are busy when are they quiet, work loads, how much revenue does she bring in, overheads, what profit she makes what does she get for it .who is making the money(if anyone)

all part of learning for when/if she goes it alone.

MissSarah1972

getmore4less wrote: »

£210 is below min wge for the hours BUT AIUI they can include the tips.



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No - tips can not be used to make up the NMW

Annisele

Another alternative might be to ask her existing boss for a pay rise.

All the things getmore4less suggested are good things to think about if she's wanting to move on - but they're also good things to think about if she's trying to decide how much she's worth to her current employer. If she's actually worth substantially more than she's getting paid, then a pitch for a payrise *might* be worthwhile.

ianianian_2

Thanks all, it's really good to have your thoughts!

I suppose the only thing with complaining to HMRC is job losses and not being 100% sure of the detail. We went through it all last night and have drawn up a CV containing transferable skills. It's just a case of her making a decision now that she has a fuller picture.