Can i claim csa although still live together?

tattynatty

Wow,I don't really know where to start?!
First of all,thanks to those that have explained the correct sums and final payments,it made a huge difference to see the real workings out,as I quoted in my first post,I wasn't to sure if my logic was correct!

Secondly,to whomever has the cheek to quote 'you don't deserve a wage like that' i am disgusted by,I work extremely hard for my money and have done since starting work at 16,our hard work has paid off and we now live a comfortable lifestyle,not that it's any concern to you whatsoever,it's not nice to think I'm judged by how much income we have. Narrow minds and all that.

I would also like to say that I wasn't trying to 'save money' or make a 'fraudulent claim',I'm merely finding out the facts of what the CSA rulings are for the future of my child.
I hope I'm never a single parent,your right,but single or not I am investigating and asking for advice/support in something I have no idea about.

If you saw it from MY logic (which was quite obv wrong) then you would understand why I came to my conclusion,having been corrected my morals differ,I was only trying to find the fair option.

I didn't come on here to be judged/abused,and I'm quite upset that people would be so vulgar and quick to dish out abuse,shame on you.

tattynatty

I feel ever so guilty and upset that people can be quick to make a judgement that I'm trying to neglect this child and benefit more so myself than the PWC.
I can assure you that I would do anything for this child,every weekend I drive 12 hours round trip to have him for one night.
I agree that we should pay CSA,damn right,I even pay for his schooling outside of the CSA,I was naive with my calculations and I have certainly been corrected in the most judgemental way.
Karma? I haven't done anything wrong,not had malicious thoughts,it was purely an innocent question into the rulings of the system.
I can't bear to read any more replies,I don't need to be critiqued on my understanding,if people was to genuinely explain & educate NRP when they need support then maybe some people wouldn't be in this situation of misunderstanding.

clearingout

but you were looking for a way to cut child maintenance payments in half - nothing to do with benefitting the PWC, it's about the child, isn't it? You ignored the fact that you still have a substantial wage coming in after maintenance payments - far more than many working PWC and NRPs who pay maintenance could dream of. We too are hardworking people who deserve a decent standard of living and want to do the best by our children. Yet your posts have already told us your children deserve far more than ours.

You need to understand that those of us who post here have a diverse experience of the child maintenance system - but all of us, one way or another, are victims of an imperfect system which leaves people on all sides struggling to give their children what they believe they deserve. I had three children, in marriage, to a successful man who happens to be self employed. With the help of his accountant girlfriend (woman he left me for, after a long affair), he ensured that his maintenance assessment is less than half of what it should be. I would accept that, except he doesn't pay it and hasn't for almost 4 years. I work hard - despite having to fall back on the benefit system when my ex left - and am luckier than most PWC in that I was able to buy a house outright after my divorce and have been able to retrain to make life easier fitting around the children. But I still have childcare costs of £700 a month and my ex doesn't contribute anything to that, not to mention the cost of children's activities, running a car, putting food on the table etc.etc. Whilst I wouldn't be better off (financially) on benefits, there is an awful lot to be said for throwing in the towel and becoming the 'single mum' that everyone loves to hate.

You should feel guilty about the comments you initially made, in my opinion. They smack of self-righteousness and ignore that fundamentally, all children deserve the best support from both their parents - financial, practial, emotional. Far, far too many children don't get anywhere near what they deserve. I think we have all done things, said things, thought things we have later come to regret but that's part of the emotional process of divorce, separation, and forming new partnerships.

We are decent people who care desperately that all our children receive a decent life. We don't take too kindly to people trying to take that away from the people we love. I would like to think that despite differing opinions here, most of us work hard to see the other's point of view even if fundamentally we can't agree with it.

OldMotherTucker

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all children deserve the best support from both their parents - financial, practial, emotional. Far, far too many children don't get anywhere near what they deserve.

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Look a child in the eye . . . . and then imagine looking that same child in the eye when they are an adult . . .

Pounds do not count.

ann121

my partner had the same he can keep 140mth for our 4 children and has to pay 270mth for one at 17yr old whose mum hasn't told cb that qc is doing paid apprenticeship work and we have no way of proving it we don't begrudge paying but leaves us with nothing

Poppie68

The post your replying too is 18 months old.
If you would like some advice you will be better starting your own thread and also paragraphing your text as it is virtually unreadable.
One point i woul like to make though is: NRP's and their new partners run a real danger of getting themselves in alot of trouble by claiming to live apart just to reduce CSA payments. Lots of reasons but 2 spring to mind,the PWC will be informed of why the payments are reduced therefore they will always be able to find proof that this is a lie. Also a quick Tax Credit check by the CSA will show the NRP and new PWC still claiming as a couple and questioned and they used to be able to refuse a new case on these grounds until the new PWC put a single tax credit claim and then that opens a whole new tin of worms. These are just 2 but as the CSA also has access to bank accounts etc it's never wise to try and defraud the system.

Poppyjack_2

Poppie68
Just read your post and although it is nearly 2 years old, you suggested a couple of really helpful points. Can you help with my situation?
My ex husband is claiming that he is living a separate life from his new wife, although they are still living in the same house. He has told the CSA that he has to pay for our one child and his new child as two separate claims (i.e. my claim and a claim from his new wife).
This allows him to pay a lot less for our child. This seems to be a loophole as the CSA have accepted it.
I believe that this is fraudulent as he is claiming to live a seperate life from his new wife in order to reduce my CSA payment (he is claiming to live apart but is actually living in the same house!!). Recently they have also had another child.
The CSA have accepted his statement that they are living separate lives .....
Any guidance/ assistance would be greatly appreciated .........

HoneyNutLoop

Poppyjack wrote: »

Poppie68
Just read your post and although it is nearly 2 years old, you suggested a couple of really helpful points. Can you help with my situation?
My ex husband is claiming that he is living a separate life from his new wife, although they are still living in the same house. He has told the CSA that he has to pay for our one child and his new child as two separate claims (i.e. my claim and a claim from his new wife).
This allows him to pay a lot less for our child. This seems to be a loophole as the CSA have accepted it.
I believe that this is fraudulent as he is claiming to live a seperate life from his new wife in order to reduce my CSA payment (he is claiming to live apart but is actually living in the same house!!). Recently they have also had another child.
The CSA have accepted his statement that they are living separate lives .....
Any guidance/ assistance would be greatly appreciated .........

If you are still within the time limits, request a mandatory reconsideration of the decision. The letter you received telling you their decision should explain that you have this right and how to exercise it.

If the outcome of the mandatory reconsideration is that the original decision is correct, appeal. Again, you should receive a letter telling you the mandatory reconsideration outcome that explains your appeal right and how to exercise it.