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Bear market to last Another 15 Years to 2027

Godfather of newsletter writers, Richard Russell, shocked King World News when he made this remarkable and extremely dire prediction to his subscribers: “The primary bear market -- the leveraging and inflation and lying and cheating and shenanigans lasted from 1945 to 2007, about 62 years. My guess is that it will require maybe one-third of that time or roughly 20 years to clean out the economic stupidity and nonsense of those 62 years. That could take this bear market out to the year 2027.”

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It is as good a guess as any, what is clear is the bottom is a long way off. But who knows when or where the bottom of this bear market will be.
House Prices 2007/08 £200K, Silver £5oz
Ratio 40,000 oz to 1 house.
2012 Fallen to £160K, Silver risen to £20 per ounce. So house/silver ratio fallen to 8000.
Prediction for the end of the decade, will keep falling at current rate until 1000 oz or less valued same as average house.
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  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    what is clear is the bottom is a long way off.

    When it comes to predicting the future nothing is clear. The more certain the conviction, proportionally the more likely it is to be wrong.

    I have no idea where the bottow was / is. Always keep in mind the Carter administrations dire predictions of 1977 / 80 that peak oil was about to be reached. In fact oil then fell to record lows for 2 decades. There are thousands of similar failed predictions. Economists in the early 70's said it was certain beyond a doubt that world famine was about to ensue and lead to civil war in America and Europe.
  • RenovationMan
    RenovationMan Posts: 4,227 Forumite
    Godfather of newsletter writers, Richard Russell, shocked King World News when he made this remarkable and extremely dire prediction to his subscribers: “The primary bear market -- the leveraging and inflation and lying and cheating and shenanigans lasted from 1945 to 2007, about 62 years. My guess is that it will require maybe one-third of that time or roughly 20 years to clean out the economic stupidity and nonsense of those 62 years. That could take this bear market out to the year 2027.”

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    It is as good a guess as any, what is clear is the bottom is a long way off. But who knows when or where the bottom of this bear market will be.

    Should we buy Gold or Silver or Both as a hedge against this dire news?
  • joe_blotts
    joe_blotts Posts: 151 Forumite
    Should we buy Gold or Silver or Both as a hedge against this dire news?

    tee hee hee.. I was waiting for something like this. Surprised nobody has yet picked up on the fact the 'new guy' posted first on a hidden forum. Could he be somone else too? Looks like treadstone trod on a mine. Can't mention the G word round here mate, not even by inference.
  • martinbuckley
    martinbuckley Posts: 1,725 Forumite
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    Fantastic News for one individual. R**ert P**ton - the BBC's Doom Merchant will have another 15 years of employment talking the economy down.

    I just hope the Queen can hang on for another 10 years so at least we get another 4-day weekend without his sanctimonous voice screeching "we're doomed".
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    Fantastic News for one individual. R**ert P**ton - the BBC's Doom Merchant will have another 15 years of employment talking the economy down.

    I just hope the Queen can hang on for another 10 years so at least we get another 4-day weekend without his sanctimonous voice screeching "we're doomed".

    Has he been more accurate in his assessments though than the many so called official predictions?
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    joe_blotts wrote: »
    tee hee hee.. I was waiting for something like this. Surprised nobody has yet picked up on the fact the 'new guy' posted first on a hidden forum. Could he be somone else too? Looks like treadstone trod on a mine. Can't mention the G word round here mate, not even by inference.

    Of course you can, the Olympics kicks off today :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Of course you can, the Olympics kicks off today

    I have a bad feeling about the amount of Gold we will manage to accumulate over the next 3 weeks :eek:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    purch wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling about the amount of Gold we will manage to accumulate over the next 3 weeks :eek:

    the point you are missing is that all the medals are actually made of silver, and the gold medals are only coated with a thin layer of gold.

    the demand for silver for olympic medals is greater than the entire amount of silver which has ever been mined*, and as a result silver will appreciate in value to the extent that in 23 days time the average house will be worth 30oz of silver.

    * = i have no evidence for this but i have just made it up to sell my newsletter, "made up nonsense about silver", which is available for $300 an issue.
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    which is available for $300 an issue.

    I am sorry, but I will only believe made up nonsense if somebody else buys your newsletter, and then cut and pastes it onto an internet blog :eek:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Has he been more accurate in his assessments though than the many so called official predictions?

    In a word.......NO
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
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