Previous employer refused to be a referee?

Sambucus_Nigra

marybelle01 wrote: »

I am pointing out that assumptions are just that, and nobody knows why they said no.

And that is why the OP should in no circumstance put their name down as a reference because it will only end in tears. If someone says no over the phone they don't suddenly spring into happy happy joy joy mode when that instruction is ignored and they now have to respond to a request for a reference.

The best bet is the people that they did their NVQ with. Or find someone else that they know with some standing in the community that they know.

sniggings

marybelle01 wrote: »

Yes thank you, I am for real. You don't need to get snitty. My comments are just as valid as the other assumptions as to why the employer said no. The fact is that nobody, including the OP knows why they said no, and everybody is guessing. I agree that they don't need to know about the other two years - but equally they also don't need to give a reference either. For all we know, after the OP left the employer found a pile of work that had't been done and was hidden behind the filing cabinet. That is also a guess. Guessing at their reasons and then judging the employer for the reasons we guessed at is pointless.

And by the way - it is the policy of my employer that they will not provide employers references after a break of 12 months. I am not assuming that just because they do that that others do - but nor am I assuming that others don't. I am pointing out that assumptions are just that, and nobody knows why they said no.

if you know the employer has nothing to do with the two years after she left their employment then your "guess" to the reason for them not doing a reference was daft "it might be because she was doing drugs for the 2 years since she left"! yes we are all guessing here but we are keeping those guesses within the Milky Way

Sambucus_Nigra

sniggings wrote: »

if you know the employer has nothing to do with the two years after she left their employment then your "guess" to the reason for them not doing a reference was daft "it might be because she was doing drugs for the 2 years since she left"! yes we are all guessing here but we are keeping those guesses within the Milky Way

It's called 'illustrating a point'. We have no idea so any guess is as good or bad as the other.

Treehugged

sniggings wrote: »

if you know the employer has nothing to do with the two years after she left their employment then your "guess" to the reason for them not doing a reference was daft "it might be because she was doing drugs for the 2 years since she left"! yes we are all guessing here but we are keeping those guesses within the Milky Way

:rotfl: :T

amandada

Playing devil's advocate here, but it's becoming increasingly common for employers to have a blanket policy of not providing references. Given the size of company the OP previously worked for, I know this is fairly unlikely, but it may provide a small comfort.

Treehugged

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

It's called 'illustrating a point'. We have no idea so any guess is as good or bad as the other.

To that end I'm guessing she and her boss had a torrid affair and she fell pregnant. Her boss promised to leave his wife but it was all lies and the OP was having none of it and !!!!!!ed off with the baby and the contents of the safe. He's not happy at all. Neither of them will tell the truth for fear of (she) being seen by her prospective employers as a thieving husband snatcher and (he) a cad and a bounder. The only way to get his own back is not give a reference. Unless she returns the money and he's awarded visitation rights...on the down low because you know, his wife might find out.

I'm guessing here but it's plausible.

OP, am I right?

moominpops

Treehugged - You are most definitely wrong!! The thought of having an affair with my boss makes me want to puke but thanks for making me laugh

sniggings

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

It's called 'illustrating a point'. We have no idea so any guess is as good or bad as the other.

not if you just said you know the 2 years don't count.

So why guess it was drug taking within THOSE TWO YEARS :rotfl:

Flora0987

sniggings wrote: »

where was the lie? they are not allowed to ask at interview .

It sounds as the OP got pregnant after having started work anyway.

You do not have to disclose that you plan of getting pregnant. However, your employer does not have to give reference. Try find someone else.

lowlitmemory

Honestly, moominpops, I'd just put them down anyway and move on.

I worked for a year for a frankly rubbish employer, I won't go into it all but he was extremely lax at responding to letters and I have seen him ignore reference requests for previous employees... no reason, just him being lazy and disorganised enough to 'lose' anything he couldn't be bothered with.

You know what though? I put him down as a reference for quite a few jobs (since after that I went to uni, so only had part-time jobs etc and the previous job was my only admin-based one). I've never been turned down for a job because he didn't provide a reference, and to my knowledge he's never provided one either. If your new/potential employers like you enough they probably won't be fazed by a non-response from one of your referees.

Good luck!