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I should imagine the normal avergae (if you took off the wages of the bankers/ higher management/ enterpreneurs/ Richard Bransons and the like of the world) Mr Joe Public will probably be on no more than 15k a year, bearing in mind most a lot of these will be private sector workers who don't get the security (and the wages, pensions etc) that public sector workers get. I know in my job I currently work for a private firm and get 7 pounds an hour, but if I did the same job with the council I would be getting 9 pounds an hour with more security and the like.
This is an interesting site as it shows the proportion of workers and that private companies are taking over http://www.poverty.org.uk/49/index.shtml
But looking on any jobcentre site will show most jobs are on less than 7 pounds an hour, even middle management can be on 7 pounds an hour (I saw the other day that someone wanted a senior support worker for 14p an hour more than what i'm on - and that job is 100 times more stressful than ours, and thats just one example). Wages are declining or staying the same in most jobs and I bet theres not many on much more than 15k.
Heres the average for 2011:
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2067258/Best-paid-jobs-2011-Tables-official-figures-UK-salaries.html
But its pretty wild as I know teachers start on 22k and it takes at least 5 years before getting to that amount.:T:T :beer: :beer::beer::beer: to the lil one
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marybelle01 wrote: »Are you joking? You are unemployed, have no skills, and would like a job paying £35k? Dream on. There is no short cut training course that will turn your current situation into a very well paid job. I suggest a life of crime.
If you read my posts I said with training 35K would be the aim.0 -
getmore4less wrote: »What have you done for the last 20 years?
Working, this is the first time unemployed.
Those jobs were unskilled though so don't add much apart from showing I'm willing to work.0 -
dawyldthing wrote: »I should imagine the normal avergae (if you took off the wages of the bankers/ higher management/ enterpreneurs/ Richard Bransons and the like of the world) Mr Joe Public will probably be on no more than 15k a year, bearing in mind most a lot of these will be private sector workers who don't get the security (and the wages, pensions etc) that public sector workers get.
if you take out retail and hotel/catering jobs (both of which are historically poor payers) I wonder what the average would be then? I'm not sure what percentage of the workforce work in those sectors though.0 -
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getmore4less wrote: »what jobs?
I just finished a Job of 12 years as it involved a lot of walking, I now have a foot condition so I had to leave, before that there is a mixed bag, Taxis driving, Supermarket, that kind of stuff, nothing that I would want to get back into or would help in the future.0 -
How are you in an office environment, do you like working with people, would you like working in a healthcare environment?
You're giving us very little to go on!0 -
mynameistallulah wrote: »How are you in an office environment, do you like working with people, would you like working in a healthcare environment?
You're giving us very little to go on!
There is not much to work with :rotfl:
Office work I would be happy with but I'm not very well educated so don't see that holding much hope.
I've work with the public in nearly all my past jobs so that isn't a problem. Do I get on with them is another question, they come in all shapes and sizes
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If you read my posts I said with training 35K would be the aim.
Yes I read your posts. And the ones since I last posted. And it is still the same answer. You have limited the amount of training you can do (assuming you have the money to pay for it, of course - there isn't much funding around these days) to one or two years. You have ruled out university - and with three or four years of that graduates are coming out and walking into jobs that pay an awful lot less than that. Or not walking into jobs at all. You are "not very academic", unskilled and unemployed. You also have no idea what you want to do other than earn an unrealistic amount of money. You say you aren't suited to an office environment, don't want to work in retail / supermarkets etc. You'd like to run your own business - but without a car and, presumably, start up capital, a business idea that will work, or the skills to do it. Determination can make up for shortcomings - but not that many of them all at once!
Sorry but you need to get real. I'd focus on getting a job, then if you work hard you might be lucky and get some opportunity to progress, get some training or whatever. But trying to plan for an unrealistic level of income without anything going for you, or even an idea as to what you could do... it isn't going to happen.0 -
I just finished a Job of 12 years as it involved a lot of walking, I now have a foot condition so I had to leave, before that there is a mixed bag, Taxis driving, Supermarket, that kind of stuff, nothing that I would want to get back into or would help in the future.
The issue will be that training will not be enough, there are plenty of opportinities but it is the motivated people that get on and get invested in by employers. 20 years in various jobs and none ofthem moving up a level or to shows lack of motivation.
Many areas the beter paid jobs are still don't need academics they need smart people and a lot of comon sense.
Retail and hospitality(pubs hotels) you move up quickly if you have the motivation, but they tend to want young people to train up
Trade people move from jobbing for big companies on contracts to finding their own work and setting up in business or get into site management
self starters with ebay/amazon based business.
healthcare but many jobs invovle a lot of standing/walking
driving instuctor, loads of people doing this and not resession proof.
other driving jobs.
12 years in a job you must have learnt something what sector?0
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