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xxSaffronxx
xxSaffronxx Posts: 102 Forumite
edited 17 July 2012 at 12:29PM in Mortgages & endowments
Im currently with C&G and on a variable rate paying £410 per month.

My LTV is 43%

I noticed last week that HSBC have a 60% LTV offer to fix it for 5 years at a repayment of around £420 per month.

I thought maybe it was worth doing, so proceeded with the application.

However upon speaking to them yesterday, the mortgage fees mean that they want £249 up front for the mortgage, and also £199 for the Valuation, which I cannot afford as I was hoping to add all these onto the mortgage.

I told them I would like to think about it before continuing.

Would it be silly of me to fix my rate at this time?
The only reason I wanted to do it now is because our income will be lower after xmas as I will be on maternity leave and i wanted to guarantee us low rate & mortgage repayments each month
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  • harvey115
    harvey115 Posts: 691 Forumite
    I think you should take advantage of the HSBC rate if you can get it as soon as possible.

    Looking at the market although it may be impossible to predict the future but from where I stand I do not see any other deal matching that rate for such a long fix. However if the upfront fees is an issue, you may try other lenders with no/less fee.

    If you post your current financial details (i.e. house value, mortgage remaining etc.), I am sure someone will be able to point you to the right direction in terms of which deal would be best suited.
  • xxSaffronxx
    xxSaffronxx Posts: 102 Forumite
    Thanks Harvey.

    At present HSBC are the only ones offering that low rate. TBH I cant see anyone getting lower than that really. Although in a few months there may be other lenders offering the same rate but hopefully lower fees.

    My financial details are:

    Value of Property: £210,000
    Outstanding Mortgage: £90,000
    Mortgage Term Remaining: 25 Years
    LTV: 43%
    Current Mortgage Repayments: £410
    Current Mortgage: Variable with C&G
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,265 Forumite
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    Only you can decide if a fixed rate at this point is right for you.

    You are giving up 2.5% variable rate with C&G for a higher rate and have to pay fees. If the stability of knowing your payments for the next five years is worth that to you, go for it.

    Look at other deals where there are no transfer fees. It looks like your mortgage isn't very big and a slightly higher rate with no upfront fees may be better for you.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • xxSaffronxx
    xxSaffronxx Posts: 102 Forumite
    Thanks Kingstreet

    Its just im worried about the rates shooting up once I go on maternity leave. And if they do, then I am stuck and will have no choice as I wont be able to remortgage at that point due to my lower income

    Any thoughts on rates over the next few years would be appreciated. I know its a bit of a silly question though :(
  • xxSaffronxx
    xxSaffronxx Posts: 102 Forumite
    Ok just looked again and HSBC do a fee free 5 year fix for £450 per month which is £40 more per month than im currently paying.

    Overall cost for comparison over 5 years:

    With Fee £27,094.80
    Without Fee £27,365.20

    Difference of £270.40 over 5 years. Monthly repayment difference of £40 over 5 years is £200. Total £470.40 over 5 years which still works out better and I dont have to find the upfront fees now, and its spread over the 5 years.

    So it appears that it might be worth doing as it definately less than paying upfront fees of £500! :D

    Am I missing something or does everyone else think it might be the right option to go for?
  • You are correct in that the fee free deal is cheaper by about £260 over the 5 years.

    Personally I would use the extra £40 per month and overpay your current mortgage and save yourself the headache of applying to HSBC. Bear in mind its 1% more than you are paying now. How long is it gonna take the base rate to rise by 1% in this economic climate.

    It used to be said the interest rates can only go one way from here (0.5%)....but maybe that isn't so true.:j
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    Ok just looked again and HSBC do a fee free 5 year fix for £450 per month which is £40 more per month than im currently paying.

    £40 a month for 5 years is £2,400, not £200, so £2700 more over the 5 years IF rates stay the same, if they go up it could work out cheaper.

    More than that, you are going into a period in your life when piece of mind will be woth more than money, is knowing what your mortgage will be in 4 years time so you can plan today worth the extra cash it could end up costing?
  • The OP was referring to the 200 quid being the difference between fee free and the 1499 fee mortgage from HSBC over the 5 year period.
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    edited 17 July 2012 at 3:42PM
    The OP was referring to the 200 quid being the difference between fee free and the 1499 fee mortgage from HSBC over the 5 year period.

    no she wasnt
    Ok just looked again and HSBC do a fee free 5 year fix for £450 per month which is £40 more per month than im currently paying.

    ...

    Monthly repayment difference of £40 over 5 years is £200. Total £470.40 over 5 years which still works out better and I dont have to find the upfront fees now, and its spread over the 5 years.

    So it appears that it might be worth doing as it definately less than paying upfront fees of £500! :D

    Am I missing something or does everyone else think it might be the right option to go for?

    I belive she multiplied the monthly difference by the number of years, and didnt then multiply by 12 for the number of months per year
  • xxSaffronxx
    xxSaffronxx Posts: 102 Forumite
    edited 17 July 2012 at 4:03PM
    Sorry guys I calculated wrong - i did £40 x 5 rather than £40 x 12 x 5!

    Ooops!

    With that in mind, its going to cost me an extra £2404.80 over 5 years than it would if I were to stay on my variable rate.
    Perhaps overpaying my mortgage by £40 per month might be the better option then.

    I might be wrong but I wouldnt have thought rates are going to shoot up quickly over the next couple of years
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