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Disgusting hygiene standards at Sainsburys

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  • Yuck to the mouldy items, I have always thought that if a health inspector found a mouldy item it was an on the spot fine of at least £1000. At least that was the case at a hotel I used to work in when a mouldy orange was found
  • stephen77
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    Yuck to the mouldy items, I have always thought that if a health inspector found a mouldy item it was an on the spot fine of at least £1000. At least that was the case at a hotel I used to work in when a mouldy orange was found

    I doubt a larger supermarket would get a fine for a mouldy strawberry especially with in its shelf life. SOme times fruit like strawberry just go mouldy.
  • ScarletRaven
    ScarletRaven Posts: 438 Forumite
    alyth wrote: »
    how do you know the checkout person that is handling your goods has washed their hands... always put your vegetables in bags!

    Seriously? THAT'S your main concern with veg, whether the checkout staff have washed their hands? A bag won't do anything. All fruit and veg should be washed before eating anyway - it's been in fields etc, disturbed in various ways by wildlife and insects, transported for miles, kept in cold storage for sometimes up to two weeks (remember, cold keeps germs dormant, it doesn't kill them), touched by people picking it, packing it, delivering it, displaying it, other customers rummaging through it at the store, then yourself and the checkout staff. Not to mention sprayed with pesticides and other nasty chemicals. All the little plastic bags do is add to landfill, they are thrown away the minute you get home and have served no purpose whatsoever in regards to hygiene.

    As for the wearing of gloves on deli counters, I agree with the majority on here - it is MUCH more hygenic to wash hands properly and regularly than to wear gloves when dealing with food. Hence why many places do not require staff to wear gloves when food handling. Having worked at a store's customer service desk in the past, I too once took a complaint from a customer about the lack of gloves on the deli. The customer was told the same thing by the store manager about it being better to have no gloves but regular hand-washing, and explained about the designated sinks (with soap and nail brushes) and designated tongs etc for handling some of the sliced meat. The staff also wear both hair nets and hats. As long as this is adhered to, I would say it is more than sufficient for good food hygiene.
  • Edwardia
    Edwardia Posts: 9,170 Forumite
    Went to Sainsbury's last night same girl served us fish and deli stuff. Used bag to pick up item and had hat and hairnet on.

    I noticed though that whereas when the deli stuff is weighed it's in the bag, when the fish is weighed it's just put in the scales. At ASDA's fish counter the fish is weighed in the bag. It's possible that fish could get cross-contaminated at Sainsbury's.
  • stephen77
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    Tippytoes wrote: »
    You must have built up resistance to who knows what. I'd rather have a weaker constitution and know that I'm not ingesting other peoples' nose pickings, urine and faeces. Glad you're happy with your choice...I'm happy with mine.

    How does wearing gloves stop nose picking getting on food?
    You can pick your nose while wearing gloves.

    If you think putting on gloves makes them wash their hands after going to the tiolet your be wrong. In fact they are less likely to wash there hands as they will think they are putting gloves on so who needs to.
    SO when they have been for a big dump, they do not wash there hands, they wipe there hands down their clothers. Then put on some gloves and touch their clothers and pick up your food. Yum yum

    While the JS staff will be in the habit of washing their hands so they will not have feaces all over them.

    People do get in habits of washing there hands with out thinking about it.

    I really think your worrying about the wrong thing.

    I guess you do not eat out at resturants?
  • stephen77
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    Tippytoes wrote: »
    It sounds like you have tried...


    What the eye doesn't see...

    Nope never tried to pick my nose wearing gloves, as I do not wear gloves as they do not offer any advantages over using my washed hands.


    exactly about what the eye does not see. However this thread kind of makes people worry about some thing that is not a worry. You keep telling people to be concerned, when no need to be. If its that a big of a worry. I would avoid resturant as you can not see all the chefs not wearing gloves etc
  • valk_scot
    valk_scot Posts: 5,290 Forumite
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    Hands up who washes their hands before starting to prepare food in their own kitchen.

    Hands up who washes their hands before eating .

    Ditto making the kids wash their hands before eating.

    Hands up who knows how to actually wash their hands properly? Nails, between fingers, knuckles and such?

    Hands up who keeps a seperate towel for drying hands and changes it at least daily? Yes, in both bathroom and kitchen?

    Hands up who washes their hands every time they go to the loo?


    Because if you don't, your own personal hygiene isn't good enough tbh. Your own hands are the ones that transfer most germs onto your own food. If you keep your own hands clean then you'll eliminate more germ transfer onto your food than worrying about a one-off touch by someone else on a food item you're probably going to wash and cook anyway. Washing your own hands regularly, properly and at key times (and insisting the family do this also) will do more to protect you against becoming ill from food contamination than anything else. There's no point complaining about an employee not using gloves to touch your ham then going home, blowing your nose, stroking the dog and then proceeding to make a sandwich with said ham and without washing your own hands. No?
    Val.
  • Edwardia
    Edwardia Posts: 9,170 Forumite
    I wash hands after going to the loo, patting the dog, handling coins, gardening, touching food waste bin/landfill bin, before washing up and before preparing food.

    Have separate towel for handwashing in kitchen and bathroom, changed daily, washed on hot wash weekly.

    Sink and bowl washed with detergent before washing up, drainer washed down with Dettox before washing up. Counters wiped down with Dettox or sterilising fluid once or twice daily. Chopping boards /counters wiped with Dettox and disposable kitchen roll before use, counters wiped down afterwards, boards washed after use. Don't use same board for raw meat as fish or veg etc.

    We don't put defrosting food or raw food above cooked food in fridge. Keep freezer notebook showing what's in there and nothing older than 4 months.

    Back door has screen door of aluminium mesh so no flies in kitchen.

    When we buy food we shuffle so that the food to be used first is nearer front of shelves.

    However must confess I'm an ex chef, that the 4 star hotel I worked in was hot on hygiene, and that despite being son of a chef tho OH's hygiene usually good but he should clean the oven more and I don't use it therefore.
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  • A._Badger
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    Edwardia wrote: »
    I wash hands after going to the loo, patting the dog, handling coins, gardening, touching food waste bin/landfill bin, before washing up and before preparing food.

    Have separate towel for handwashing in kitchen and bathroom, changed daily, washed on hot wash weekly.

    Sink and bowl washed with detergent before washing up, drainer washed down with Dettox before washing up. Counters wiped down with Dettox or sterilising fluid once or twice daily. Chopping boards /counters wiped with Dettox and disposable kitchen roll before use, counters wiped down afterwards, boards washed after use. Don't use same board for raw meat as fish or veg etc.

    We don't put defrosting food or raw food above cooked food in fridge. Keep freezer notebook showing what's in there and nothing older than 4 months.

    Back door has screen door of aluminium mesh so no flies in kitchen.

    When we buy food we shuffle so that the food to be used first is nearer front of shelves.

    However must confess I'm an ex chef, that the 4 star hotel I worked in was hot on hygiene, and that despite being son of a chef tho OH's hygiene usually good but he should clean the oven more and I don't use it therefore.

    Nothing older than four months in a freezer? Why?
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