Preparedness for when

Alloneword

RAS wrote: »

Alloneword

If it is going to take 20 minutes to get to high ground, I think you might want to consider:

It's hard to explain without giving away my location because i'm in a unique place in the river, if i was to work on the basis of roads gridlocked so even weaving the bike in and out would be hard, so i'd be looking at cutting through housing estates and on pathway sometimes, wrong way up streets, in a nutshell fook the highway code as no other !!!!!! would be waiting at a red light i suspect it will take me about 10 - 15 mins to get away from flood water that would have come over in the first 30 mins, this is according to my council's figures then the flood zone gets bigger as time goes on, so i need 10-15 mins to get out of danger, after that it's just a case of getting further away and closer to higher ground where i could stay for some time.

RAS wrote: »

And inflatable canoe??? either to ride or to take the panniers as they will start to take in water and obstruct your movement when it is less than 30 centimetres high.

Canoe not an option IMO one to fat to get in the !!!!!! and also SE London on a normal night is not great place to be and with water coming over the walls all hell is going to break loose, people would stick a knife at your throat and nick what you had even if it was pants 10 sizes to big for them, cast your mind back to the riots a couple of years ago, they were ANIMALS and that is what it would be like again, the Mrs has to go through Lewisham and Peckham every day and picked her up after the riots and i had not seen anything like it since the Brixton riots in the 80's when i lived in Camberwell which is a 5 min ride to Brixton, scarry !!!!!!

RAS wrote: »

Some sort of flotation device for the bike even if only kiddies arm bands that can be attached below the seat and to the handbars? So that if you are in deeper water you can float or tow it.

LOL sorry don't mean to take the p1ss but the bike is a fat old girls and comes in at 330KG (52 stone in old money) wet and that does not include ANY kit so it would have to be something the size of a barrage balloon to keep her up.

RAS wrote: »

Think also about what you might wear; wool and some modern fabrics keep you warm even when wet; cotton and some other modern fabric lead to hypothermia at frightening speeds.

I had never given that any thought, the only trouble there is my size i'm a very big dude and i cannot buy anything to fit me in the high street it has to be all on line but i will look into this as i say never given it any thought, more to follow....

All1

thriftwizard

I've had two Khyams and still have the third, a "lightweight" Freelander used for short trips, but it's stood up to some serious monsoon-type rain and some pretty windy conditions too. The only other tent that's really stood the tests of time & serious weather is our old Gelert Lokon Vario 6, a big tunnel tent; it's about 12 years old now & goes everywhere with my son's Tough Mudder team. The Khyams are fantastic & very easy to pitch, but tunnel tents, pitched well, are very stable & you have good headroom all along the length. Mind you, the Gelert weighs about 35Kg... definitely not one to transport on a bike!

ETA - Brixton - I worked on the junction of Atlantic Road at the time! But was on holiday...

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Heard a story on the radio news today, which said 60% of people wouldn't know how to give CPR, to a person having a heart attack.

Excuse me, but since when do you give CPR, to a person whose heart is still beating :huh:

Nargleblast

Many people get confused between the terms heart attack and cardiac arrest. There are a number of causes of cardiac arrest, and a heart attack can be one of them but essentially a person having a heart attack is alive, but needs urgent medical attention to stay that way, whereas someone who has arrested is technically dead, and there is a very short window of opportunity to bring them back to life again.

Good out-of-hospital CPR is essential if the person is to have any chance of surviving without suffering brain damage. If you get the chance to learn this skill, do so.

Alloneword

thriftwizard wrote: »

I've had two Khyams and still have the third, a "lightweight" Freelander used for short trips, but it's stood up to some serious monsoon-type rain and some pretty windy conditions too.

Well at least it's good to know my research has paid of on that manf side of things, i would like to go for pump up tent but feel Khyam will be my final choice, as i say i'll wait till Feb camping show in Birmingham and see what new ones they have and what deals i can get on old ones they may have in stock.

thriftwizard wrote: »

ETA - Brixton - I worked on the junction of Atlantic Road at the time! But was on holiday...

LOL that would have been fun (not), i was only aout 17-18 at the time and i found it exciting that it was so close, but now being old fart i'd crap myself today.

Right off to look at some of the links i have picked up here from you lot.

All1

miss_corerupted

Frugalsod wrote: »

I think you can. I have seen other recipes that use apple peel and cores, and whatever would otherwise be thrown away.

Excellent. I'll have to remember to do this when he starts. We just fed it to the chickens last time

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Nargleblast wrote: »

If you get the chance to learn this skill, do so.

I agree.

It's one of the most useful skills you can have.

jk0

Regarding heart attacks, a friend sent me this a few years ago:

Why keep aspirin by your bedside?
About Heart Attacks

There are other symptoms of an heart attack besides the pain on the left arm.
One must also be aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well as nausea and lots of sweating, however these symptoms may also occur less frequently.
Note: There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack.
The majority of people (about 60%) who had a heart attack during their sleep, did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from your deep sleep.

If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth (under your tongue) and swallow them with a bit of water.
Afterwards:
- phone a neighbor or a family member who lives very close by
- say "heart attack!"
- say that you have taken 2 aspirins.
- take a seat on a chair or sofa near the front door, and wait for their arrivaland...
~ do NOT lie down ~

A Cardiologist has stated that, if each person, after receiving this e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one life can be saved!
Do forward this message; it may save lives!

Alloneword

ivyleaf wrote: »

Alloneword I assume you're somewhere east of the Barrier in that delightful area referred to as the Thames Gateway?

Sorry i missed your post, no i'm up river lets just say very near the hilton surrey quays.

Karmacat you gave a link to a site about using cans etc, something that has come mind is when you find a useful page like is to then get it turned into a pdf document that can be stored on your phone/thumbdrive/cloud etc just a handy way of keeping useful info in one place.

All1

moneyistooshorttomention

Nargleblast wrote: »

Many people get confused between the terms heart attack and cardiac arrest. There are a number of causes of cardiac arrest, and a heart attack can be one of them but essentially a person having a heart attack is alive, but needs urgent medical attention to stay that way, whereas someone who has arrested is technically dead, and there is a very short window of opportunity to bring them back to life again.

Good out-of-hospital CPR is essential if the person is to have any chance of surviving without suffering brain damage. If you get the chance to learn this skill, do so.

This is puzzling me and I don't quite understand the difference. I get that "heart attack" is that the person concerned is quite visibly still alive in front of you and you can see they are in pain = therefore deal with as appropriate.

But if its an "arrest" and they are "technically dead" - then doesn't that equal "They aren't in any pain. They are dead. If nothing is done they will stay dead" and that's a very different kettle of fish (ie we then get into the question about - why would anyone try and revive them? and some people wouldn't wish to be revived).

I tend to get rather concerned about the idea of reviving someone who has died from an "arrest" - because one day that person could well be me and its possible to tell everyone close to you not to do so if that ever happens...but then what happens if you have an "arrest" in front of a stranger and they then have no way of knowing you don't wish to be revived and your first words on coming round would be to call them every name you could think of for having done so?

With the prevailing way of thinking being so much one that says "Bring them back..." even if you can see they are dead. Then is there some card or something you can carry that says words to effect of "Do NOT do so - leave well alone"....as I'd like one personally and I expect some others would too. In some families (mine for instance) we know very well that that's probably the way we will die and it is worrying to me to think someone might interfere in that (well-meaning as I'm sure they would be).