Preparedness for when

candlelight_2013

Good to see you Pops, sorry you haven't been too well, you have been missed.

I think we have to phone the surgery soon to book in for our flu jab. I still have my bulbs to plant. I have been trying to hang on to the bedding plants for as long as possible, but they are definitely going over now

You did well to find your bargains, I never seem to find much but I probably don't go at the right time. Lyn seems to find some YS bargains at her Co-op quite frequently.

Look after yourself

Candlelightx

Frugalsod

kittie wrote: »

Anyone who works for money is working class by definition.

I am working class and very very proud of it. I could, haha, call myself middle class these days but why, what is the point, I have no airs and graces and no intention of ever having pretentiousness in my vocabulary.Middle class is just jumped up terminology used by people who have jumped up mrs bouquet tendencies and think they are better than working class

Well even middle class workers in professions are doing it for the money. A friend in a managerial role in the construction industry from working class background is as middle class now as anyone else no matter. The fact is that the middle class is wrongly used by many groups does not help. Look for adverts where the advertiser is looking for professional tenants. Well the professions only cover 5% of the workforce so the term got misused in order to fill accommodation.

Ultimately the squeeze on incomes will decimate the middle classes very rapidly as it is in the US. You only have to see the numbers of articles on Zero Hedge about the crisis in the middle classes in the US and even here those who might have formerly called themselves middle class are more likely to refer to themselves as working class now with the fall from grace in their circumstances.

The fact that I work in a profession technically makes me middle class. Though I am fully aware that all our financial positions are very precarious particularly in the downward direction. If you check I doubt you will find any criticisms of the poor or the middle or working classes in any of my previous posts.

Karmacat

Frugalsod wrote: »

I would regard myself as middle class but do not look down on working class at all. I certainly do not talk down to them as they are working. I also do not look up to the upper class. They are in reality not that much better than anyone else. ...

Erm, they're not at all better than anyone else, simply because they're "upper class".

Frugalsod wrote: »

How many of you in Rutland have been reminded that you need earth quake preps? The damage has been terrible.

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Frugalsod

Karmacat wrote: »

Erm, they're not at all better than anyone else, simply because they're "upper class".

Exactly. I judge people on their actions and not their class or anything else.

Popperwell

Just realised I posted in the wrong thread:oOoops! Apologies but glad you found me. *note to self* "Pay more attention!"

Nargleblast

Doesn't matter, Popperwell, you are just as much a prepper as anyone else because you take an interest in your home and surroundings, as well as the world out there.

smeeth

Frugalsod wrote: »

How many of you in Rutland have been reminded that you need earth quake preps? The damage has been terrible.

I live in Rutland and whilst the one last night was tiny, we had a bigger one in January which did leave damage. Quite a few neighbours had structural cracks appear after it.

Luckily bin day is Monday here

greenbee

I'm somewhat saddened by what seems to be some rather unpleasant inverted snobbery on this thread. What matters is whether people are decent, ethical, considerate and caring.

Class can be difficult to define (BTW - 'middle class' in the US is often used as a derogatory term for people who are pretending to be more affluent than they are ... ), and sociologists use much more complex categorisation than working/middle/upper class. (For example, a tenant farmer is categorised MUCH lower down the scale than a landowning farmer, and yet there may be no difference in income and social status in their community).

I have what is probably considered to be a middle class background, upbringing and career. I'm Oxbridge educated. I have some very smart aristocratic relatives, and some with strong working-class roots. None of which really matter to either me or them.

I live in a village that has been hugely changed by relatively wealthy 'incomers' who have priced the locals out of the housing market. However, I have moved here because I've had to leave the area I was brought up in due to the fact that there were no jobs.

My class and background are irrelevant to my neighbours - I get on well both with those who can show you gravestones in the churchyard going back generations, and those who have moved here in the hope of better quality of life for their families bought with their middle-class salaries (incidentally, not all have middle-class backgrounds, many are what you might call 'upwardly mobile').

It's fairly clear that anyone who can't claim an impoverished childhood or a working class background involving manual labour isn't welcome here. I suspect that this is a very short-sighted view. There are good and bad people in all classes (with the possible exception of the political class - who incidentally are not all necessarily either middle or upper class), and assuming that some kind of 'working class solidarity' is going superior to any other kind of social structure is likely to cause as many problems as it solves. Any kind of stereotyping risks a kind of blinkered vision that makes you vulnerable.

BTW - middle class lorry drivers with southern accents are also nice, polite, considerate people. Class is not what makes good people good.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

You can cancel online, or by phone.

You don't have to explain why you wish to cancel, but they will likely tell you that you do.

In that case, you could just tell them you are moving abroad.

One thing it isn't a good idea to do, is cancel the DD, without first cancelling the licence.

Thanks bob, just been on the website, to check what I need to do, and yes I think as you day it's easier to say moving abroad..

fuddle

I know. I live Dorset. The firm was local and in the same bracket as my husband and given that I know what a driver earns I doubt this gent was middle class but I give you that it could be possible.

Interesting you pick upon the issue of the truck driver and not the women who were driving their children to school in a self obsessed and selfish manner.