Preparedness for when

Nargleblast

In simple terms the TTIP means this: if a government decides to pass a law that will affect a company's profits, that company will have the right to sue the government. So a government for example deciding to ban a type of pesticide for the sake of public health may find itself being sued by the manufacturers of that pesticide. I believe the Australian government was being sued a while ago because it placed restrictions on advertising of tobacco products - not sure whether that is still ongoing.

That is my very basic understanding of TTIP, I would be interested to hear further explanations if anyone has any.

GreyQueen

I regard my computer as being an anti-theft device. The monitor weighs 21 kg on its own and the whole thing is actually worthless, so not likely to be nicked like a lappy, ipad or whatever.

There is a theory which I have held for some time which explains the reduction in size of consumer electronics. Laypersons might be of the misapprehension that this is a result of improved technology and sophisticated design.

We insiders know that it was actually driven by litigation risks caused by personal injury claims brought against the big IT companies by members of the Allied Union of Housebreakers, Burglars and Fences (AUHBF).

So many members of the Union were suffering back strain, shoulder wrenches and broken toes (the CRT monitors are the very devil if they land on your tootsies) that Something Had to Be Done. So your IT stuff suddenly got a lot smaller, flatter, lighter and basically became able to slip into a jacket pocket or a carrier bag.

I hear your doubt. But ask yourself this; when have you heard of an IT giant being successfully sued by AUHBF in recent years? Never.

I rests my case, m'lud.

[Deleted User]

I often think when I look at the whole house that if a burglar did break in.....he'd most likely leave us a present as he'd feel sorry for us!!!

nuatha

GreyQueen wrote: »

I regard my computer as being an anti-theft device. The monitor weighs 21 kg on its own and the whole thing is actually worthless, so not likely to be nicked like a lappy, ipad or whatever.

Hence my remembering your monitor and excluding it from the coments I'd made upthread.

There is a theory which I have held for some time which explains the reduction in size of consumer electronics. Laypersons might be of the misapprehension that this is a result of improved technology and sophisticated design.

We insiders know that it was actually driven by litigation risks caused by personal injury claims brought against the big IT companies by members of the Allied Union of Housebreakers, Burglars and Fences (AUHBF).

So many members of the Union were suffering back strain, shoulder wrenches and broken toes (the CRT monitors are the very devil if they land on your tootsies) that Something Had to Be Done. So your IT stuff suddenly got a lot smaller, flatter, lighter and basically became able to slip into a jacket pocket or a carrier bag.

I hear your doubt. But ask yourself this; when have you heard of an IT giant being successfully sued by AUHBF in recent years? Never.

I rests my case, m'lud.

I believes yer

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I often think when I look at the whole house that if a burglar did break in.....he'd most likely leave us a present as he'd feel sorry for us!!!

I'm fairly sure that somewhere under the cats, stash and miscellaneous are the last people who tried to burgle us.
We've acquired two additional cats, having moved MiL's in (hopefully temporarily) no doubt we'll be receiving a cease and desist notice from AUHBF in due course. In terms of trip hazard alone, the increase to 5 critters is a near certainty of a successful attempt at bringing an uninitiated human to their face first in the carpet moment.

MiL continues to make slow progress, actually its probably not that slow, from massive stroke to taking steps with a frame in two months, but we're still trying to anticipate what the level of recovery is likely to be.

greenbee

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I often think when I look at the whole house that if a burglar did break in.....he'd most likely leave us a present as he'd feel sorry for us!!!

You may joke, but ... more years ago than I care to remember, I was in my first job and living in London, we had a break in. The culprits were caught in the house, and my neighbour helpfully gave the police a front door key to save them breaking it down.

As our TV was 30 years old, we had no video recorder, the 'stereo' was a battered 10-year old twin tape deck and there was no jewellery or games consoles the haul the thieves had started putting together consisted of:

1. 6 bottles of wine, none of which had cost more than £3
2. A broken fax machine
3. An analogue mobile phone (this was when digital mobiles had started to replace them, so the analogue was shoved in a drawer after being cloned for the umpteenth time)

They couldn't find anything more to steal. But they still ended up spending rather a long time in prison :cool:

Cheapskate

Thanks iveyleaf, doveling and nargleblast for the helpful info on TTIP, and Lyn and mar for the stove advice, too - definitely plenty of research to do

A xo

moneyistooshorttomention

Nargleblast wrote: »

In simple terms the TTIP means this: if a government decides to pass a law that will affect a company's profits, that company will have the right to sue the government. So a government for example deciding to ban a type of pesticide for the sake of public health may find itself being sued by the manufacturers of that pesticide. I believe the Australian government was being sued a while ago because it placed restrictions on advertising of tobacco products - not sure whether that is still ongoing.

That is my very basic understanding of TTIP, I would be interested to hear further explanations if anyone has any.

That's my understanding of TTIP as well - basically boils down to "Kiss your government goodbye - as they won't have any power anyway - as corporations will have the ultimate say-so".

My definition of how to turn into a cynic into 2 easy lessons being:

1. You find out that our much-vaunted right to Freedom of Speech has been steadily killed for years now (assuming it ever existed - as we were all told) and a lot of "yer ordinary people in the street" will go along with it because they don't think you are entitled to an opinion either (unless it agrees with theirs.....). The hollow laughter to be heard in the far corner is someone was foolhardy enough to try and persuade me that we still are able to freely exercise our right to that Freedom of Speech we are told we have without someone trying to punish us for it.

2. Why bother voting almost - as our western "democratic" governments had been pretty much bought and paid for anyway. But add TTIP into the mix as well and it pretty much sets the seal on it:lipsrseal.

daz378

theres been a lot of 38%s action on this it is about defanging the government. its like the frog being thrown in a hot pot and jumping out cos it hot.....we are already in the pot and ttip and attacks on unions and human rights are the incremental increases in temperature, we dont realise and therefore stay in the pot......... after 7 days of work looking forward to a long weekend off......take care

S_Wales_Saver

Mrs L. I have been interested in the wonder bag for a while and have no problems making one. I don't have any cast iron but do you think it would work with AMC waterless pans?
They are a scary price, but mine were bought 40? years ago (maybe 45?) and are in daily use. You can't kill the things. Point is they are very heavy stainless steel and have a close fitting lid. That should be good yes?

nuatha

S_Wales_Saver wrote: »

Mrs L. I have been interested in the wonder bag for a while and have no problems making one. I don't have any cast iron but do you think it would work with AMC waterless pans?
They are a scary price, but mine were bought 40? years ago (maybe 45?) and are in daily use. You can't kill the things. Point is they are very heavy stainless steel and have a close fitting lid. That should be good yes?

Stainless doesn't have the same thermal mass as cast iron, if you were acquiring a new pan (or even better one from a car boot sale) then a cast iron casserole/dutch oven is the way to go. Having said that I've used stainless steel, enamelled and aluminium pans in hay boxes - both lined with hay and with expanded polystyrene - and they've worked. I've found the biggest problem with lighter weight pans has been having a large air gap in the top of the pan.
If I had your pans, I'd certainly use them and expect decent results.