Preparedness for when

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Why would you fit a fan in a bucket toilet :huh:

moneyistooshorttomention

Indeed....I tend to agree that those who "prep" may well be those that "sh*t" of some description or other has already happened to.

I do think it is necessary/sensible to differentiate between entirely avoidable sh*t of course (of the "didn't bother to plan" variety) and....errrm...no sympathies at all there personally I have to admit, because some of us operate from a "I am going to plan my life" viewpoint (and stuff can still happen...but many of the sh*t events that are possible simply don't happen if planning has been done properly) on the one hand...

On the other hand...are the "Honestly couldn't have been planned for" events and its when one of the "couldn't have been avoided even if I were a planner/despite being a deferred gratification person etc" type things comes up that could turn someone into a bit of a "planner".

My own personal "turn into bit of a planner" type person was the first time unemployment hit. Now I knew that that is something that doesn't happen to someone in my position (ie lower middle class and doing office jobs). I was fully aware that happened to people who do things like shop jobs/factory jobs/etc - and sympathise - but it certainly wasn't going to happen to someone like me. I also knew, of a certainty, that no-one would ever come near someone in that sort of position and even put forward the idea of working outside "work hours" (ie 9-5 Monday-Friday) or getting treated THAT badly at work. I knew very well it happened to some people (and sympathised and would help as far as I could), but it certainly wouldn't happen to me personally.

I have learnt that there are some "personal" issues in life that people can (and most of us do) plan against and it doesn't feel appropriate to me to sympathise on a personal/could have been avoided issue but...

Even "planners" can be hit by someone else not agreeing that we live in a country (ie Britain) with rights to freedom of speech etc, as I have learnt to my own personal costs. We hear all the stuff about freedom of speech/democracy/etc/etc and believe it and then get whacked for acting accordingly:mad::(:mad: and get hit too because we've stood up for those values that we thought are implicit in this being "Britain...with all the rights our forebears fought long and hard for"....so ...yep...sh*t can happen to anyone.

Maybe even to those who are in pretty secure jobs and don't challenge the status quo (ie because they were cynical enough in the first place to not believe the stuff we are told about our right to "freedom of speech" and so don't exercise it and don't get hit for doing so).

My own personal estimate is that even people from my own background and who zip their mouths shut (ie rather than exercising our right to "freedom of speech") have been vulnerable to being hit for about the last 10 years or so. Next up...the upper middle class...ie maybe getting it in the neck about now (even if they do the "see no evil/hear no evil/etc" stance and I'm guessing it might percolate "upwards" a few years after that to pretty much everyone (and that's when even the "elite" get it in the neck).

I guess the point I am making is the background of many of us/most of us tells us that we personally simply aren't in the "firing line" and that is a thing its very difficult for many people to get their heads around.

Butterfly_Brain

This is another reason to keep Monsanto out of this country
http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-patents-sue-farmers-547/

RAS

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

This is another reason to keep Monsanto out of this country
http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-patents-sue-farmers-547/

Yep. I do not necessarily oppose all GM technology but I oppose its use in all plants that are allowed or need to flower to produce crops and are wind and insect pollinated.

Not so much because of the risk of contamination but because of the risk of legal action.

Frugalsod

RAS wrote: »

Yep. I do not necessarily oppose all GM technology but I oppose its use in all plants that are allowed or need to flower to produce crops and are wind and insect pollinated.

Not so much because of the risk of contamination but because of the risk of legal action.

Yes though I have concerns about pesticide resistance becoming far more common. It is already becoming a serious problem in Bangladesh and India.

thriftwizard

Shame you can't see this, GQ - it's Slugmaggedon out there this morning! We had a lot of rain overnight - there's a massive storm rumbling away over the New Forest as I type, but it's dry here now - and every giant slug from here to Timbuctu is galloping around our lawn. I think it's been so dry here for so long, they're the only ones who had enough moisture inside to survive. The chickens are going bananas and have totalled ignored their carefully-prepared breakfast; who wants fruit, veg & oats when there's slug-on-the-hoof to be had? They're squabbling over the 6" ones... not a pretty sight! There are times when poultry-keepers can see that the dinosaurs never died out, they just grew feathers...

fuddle

'tis a bit weird out there this morning. I did a bit long slug dodging getting the girls to school. Reminds me, we have a carer who wrote in the notes 'fed the slugs' I thought she must have meant the birds and because our lady has dementia I couldn't ask her if there was a mix up. Cue a few hours on and I worked with said carer. I began pulling her leg over her error. "oh no" she said "I do feed the slugs left over salad stuffs". Me? I just thought if GQ could hear you. Boy oh boy would you get it! :rotfl:

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Aldi have the one egg frying pans in again.

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

How's this for shtf toilet
http://thehomesteadsurvival.com/emergency-sanitation-porta-potty-toilet/

we have an old metal commode in the shed, that has been known to be used with a bucket underneath it lol.. ideal for when you are in festival etc, and you know the portaloos are going to be bogging to the point when you can smell them a mile away...

COOLTRIKERCHICK

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

Aldi have the one egg frying pans in again.

I would expect I could get 3 or 4 of my quails eggs in one of them lol