Preparedness for when

Butterfly_Brain

paidinchickens wrote: »

Can I just ask

I've never suffered from hayfever but this last week I've been terrible, even today while it's raining my nose and eyes are burning. Can you still get it when it's raining?[/QUOTE=
yes i am afraid so

Butterfly_Brain

been to the doctor, having the stitches out was traumatic to say the least:eek: three were stuck and the last one was so tight it took eight tries for the nurse to get it out :eek: i felt really sick by the time she had finished. i still have to keep it covered and told not to get it wet or try to do too much apart from the exercises that the hospital gave me so it looks like i won't be back to normal for quite a few weeks yet
not that i have ever been what is deemed normal in my life :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

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paidinchickens wrote: »

Can you still get it when it's raining?

Sun, rain, sleet, hail or snow, I don't seem to be able to get it.

Sorry, I've just realised, we're talking about hay fever.

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mrsmortenharket wrote: »

Weather utterly horrendous here today as well. I am also cold.

At least I have one mercy.

It's wet here, but at least it not cold.

Possession

BB I feel for you. When I had my knee replacements done I had staples both times, and when it came time to have them out the nurses always said it didn't hurt. By the time it came to have the 2nd one done it became emphatically clear that they'd never actually had staples removed from their leg, and they didn't have a clue what they were talking about (no offence to any nurses here!).

boultdj

mrsmortenharket wrote: »

Weather utterly horrendous here today as well. I am also cold. Have to go back out in it as son No1 needs to see the gp for hay fever meds. He'd suffer in the aftermath of the apocalypse with no hay fever meds!

He has my sympathy,and local honey is helpfull to easy hayfever sympton's and nettle's are a natral[sp?] asthma remedy, as used during the war.hth

GreyQueen

Afternoon all.

The whys, the hows and the how-far-do-you-goes of prepping are always worthy of debate and consideration.

No two posters here are likely to have the exactly the same households, residences, resources both material and physical. We can only prep from our own POV and make a realistic assessment of the most probable risks we might enounter, and what we're prepared to do towards mitigation.

I think you'd need the income and obsessiveness of a Howard Hughes-type character to mitigate against everything that might conceivably happen. But that doesn't mean you can't do something to help yourself, does it?

I can drive but don't have a vehicle. I could rent a car or van, I have a local company where I have an ongoing relationship as I've hired from them a few times - we're on first name terms. I'm familiar with driving a variety of things inc armoured vans, and have even had experience of driving a double-decker bus, a 1950s one. But driving out presupposes that the roads aren't gridlocked by other panicked people, that they haven't been closed off by the Police or the Army on government orders. That fuel is accessible.

Based on recent experiences, I reckon I could cover 10-12 miles a day with a full pack, thrice that with a laden pushbike. Not spectacular but better than nothing. My preference would still be for staying put, if at all possible.

So, I have prepped for my individual bank collapsing (holding cash outside the banking system). I have water sufficient for several weeks and food sufficient for several months. I hope I have shedloads of commonsense and am streetwise enough to keep myself out of trouble, and brave enough to go down fighting if cornered in a hopeless situation.

The thing is, I won't be in a tizz if there's no water tomorrow morning when I roll out of my bed. The dishes will be done, the kettle pre-filled and there's lots of bottled water and wetwipes to keep me cleanish in the interim. If there's no electricity, I know how long my frozen foods will last with the freezer left shut. I won't panic if there's an outage. My mobile is charged, plus there is the landline. I know manage without many of the home comforts - done enough camping.

The best way of coping, assuming that there isn't plague running loose or shells landing on your area, would be to stay very still and quiet indoors. Do nothing which says, I have resources. Don't be all lit up when other homes are in darkness, don't cook that pungent tinned chili con carne when people around you are starving; a discreet consumption of cold sardines would be more prudent.

Be careful that your rubbish doesn't flag up your resources. Don't brag about what you have, and if all about you are wailing and gnashing their teeth, wail alongside them and gnash yours as well. You don't want people wondering why you're looking smug and well-fed.

Don't ever put all your preps in one basket, and have some which are lootable and more visible, in hopes that looters will be in haste and grabbing and going, not looking to dismantle half your home to get the good stuff.

The fact that we're here, alive to have this online 'conversation', reveals that each and every one of us is the descendant of survivors. When the bubonic plague ran amok, our ancestors were there. They went through millenia of wars and famines, survived cholera, TB, countless infectious diseases, struggled with inequitable economic situations, went to bed hungry, worried and fought to survive and raise their kids.

Just by being here, we're survivors, coded all the way down into our DNA. Most people alive in western countries may be soft and comfortable and unsuspecting, but we're not very far away from the hardscrabble years, a mere blink in time. We'd default to surviving at the drop of a hat, I know it.

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Thanks GQ that's a very comforting thought to hold against the fear of the possibilities our imaginations can conjour up in the wee dark hours of the night. Sound good sense from someone with thier feet very firmly in reality and thier head in the here and now, good post.

Frugalsod

pineapple wrote: »

Imo having to bug out on foot would be game over for most people anyway.

The fuel crisis of 2001 showed how vulnerable we are to a fuel shortage. We only have a few days petrol so if anything did happen to upset that supply like power cuts, because refining needs lots of electricity, then it would even things up very quickly. You might have a full tank to start with but siphons could end that advantage very rapidly. The timing of the SHTF event is also crucial many people could be away from home at work and will try and make their way home. So using it up. Telecoms may be down or jammed. So being able to co-ordinate to everyone in your group meeting at a bug out location may be impossible. There could be martial law and a total driving ban. All fuel could be requisitioned. These would eliminate the car as an option. If there are serious blizzards cars would be unusable anyway, and the only option for many will be to walk.

Mobs might be a problem but we could have martial law as well. Moving at night on foot might be the only solution. Eventually people would have to venture out as food and water runs out.

jk0

GQ echoed something I was thinking about yesterday: The rubbish.

If you are living on tinned food, would you want to put the tins out in your recycling basket? It probably woudn't even be safe to put them in your normal rubbish, as starving people might be looking in bins.

I wonder if it would be best not to put rubbish out at all in SHTF times.