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  • ALIBOBSY
    ALIBOBSY Posts: 4,527 Forumite
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    edited 10 September 2013 at 1:27PM
    Regarding the petrol syphoning OH reckons that the majority of post 2000 cars have anti syphoning systems plus you can't just pour petrol in to modern cars from bottles either as if you look when at the petrol pump there is a closed flap part way inside the petrol pipe, which gets pushed back by the end of the petrol pump, so you would need to push it back with a stick to pour the petrol in.

    Sadly people would probably just bang a hole in your tank underneath to steal the petrol anyway.

    The "prepper" guy wasn't specifically referred to as a prepper, he said he was a "self sufficiency fan", although I think the implication was he as a "prepper". TBH my first thought after the shed was broken into was that they might get the house broken into.

    One of our thoughts is in this situation you start hiding food around the house-stash tins/water behind the bath panel, in the loft, in wardrobes, under beds etc. But leave some in the kitchen cupboards so if you were forced to say barricade yourselves in the bedroom whilst the robbers got on with it they would steal what was there and hopefully bog off.

    I can't believe a real prepper wouldn't have ANY other food stashed around-even if just on the second day he started hiding it, plus no weapons of any kind? Baseball bat, kitchen knives, axe, etc etc.

    Also Oh and I said we would organise watches between us, especially if rioting was going on-tbh we are lucky not to be in a city centre so hope we would avoid too much civil unrest as least in the short term.

    I do think you would need to turn to neighbours and help each other out. Not really something that would happen much in city centres I suppose-at least not in London.

    But the "prepper" guy was right they would have been better off moving out to the country lol.

    I suppose in the end it illustrated that we can all end up so desperate to feed ourselves and our families that anyone could end up the one fighting over tins of dog food :(.

    Also OH couldn't believe the guy poo-poohing hunting in London and saying "where will I hunt, Hyde park?", well yes-pidgeons, and rabbits, rats if you had to.

    Ali x
    "Overthinking every little thing
    Acknowledge the bell you cant unring"

  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,934 Forumite
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    Pineapple picked up a beautiful denim skirt today. It has a soft sort of roll top waist and is superbly comfy. It fits like a dream and looks hardly worn!
    But she should have checked the label. The clue is in the word 'Blooming'. ;) Well at least she knows where to get her clothes from now on. Yes it's a Mothercare brand :mad:
  • mardatha
    mardatha Posts: 15,612 Forumite
    ALI don't eat city pigeons, they carry TB. But you can eat wood pigeon.
  • Given the choice, in a SHTF situation, would you be better living in an urban or rural location?

    City/Town or Village/Hamlet?

    How about an isolated cottage, in the Outer Hebrides?

    They each have their pros and cons.

    While an isolated location is less likely to attract looters, looking to steal your supplies, if the looters did turn up, you are a long way from outside support, such as the police.

    Also, in an isolated location, you are at the end of the supply chain, so will be last to receive outside help.

    While town and cities would probably be reconnected to electricity and water supplies (or at least have localised generators and water tankers) within a few days, an outlying village or hamlet could wait weeks, to get electricity and water restored.

    The isolated cottage, in the Outer Hebrides, could wait months or, in a major TEOTWAWKI situation, perhaps forever.
  • Gigervamp
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    ALIBOBSY wrote: »
    Also OH couldn't believe the guy poo-poohing hunting in London and saying "where will I hunt, Hyde park?", well yes-pidgeons, and rabbits, rats if you had to.

    Ali x

    There are plenty of deer in Richmond Park. ;) And then there are the inner city farms, and there used to be, although not sure if there still are, cattle in Morden Hall Park in Mitcham.
  • Blackout was food for thought and DH is watching it tonight to get on board. The saying how many meals away are we from riots? I know a fear few people how only have a small stash. People will be selfish remember the bread shortage a few years back? the woman in adsa proudly showing her trolly full of bread to the papers? you cant make a meal from bread. My local corner shop was run by two young brothers weren't effected and he said that if some went to get two loafs when they normal have one he said put it back and don't be daft.
    I believe supermarkets are gonna have a run on candles next few days. ops late for school run!
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 10 September 2013 at 3:38PM
    daftmummy wrote: »
    I believe supermarkets are gonna have a run on candles next few days.

    That kind of selfish behaviour, which causes candle shortages, gets on my wick. :p
  • It occurs to me, that heavy/blackout curtains, would be a good idea.

    In the event of a major/prolonged SHTF situation, they would allow you to illuminate your home well, without broadcasting the fact you have oil/gas lanterns, and/or lots of candles.
  • Thought the same thing BOB and I'm going to get blackout linings for one room so we can use a solar lamp/ candle lantern in safety. I've never seen one but there used to be a shuttered lantern that only shone the light downwards from an opening at the front, used to be used by wartime ARPs I wonder if anyone has seen one? and would it be feasible to recreate one from modern materials?
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 10 September 2013 at 4:03PM
    Do you mean this?

    ww2lamp-large_1.jpg

    As for recreating it, you wouldn't want to rely on batteries, and would want a lot more light than one of those would put out, otherwise you might as well just use a couple of candles.

    Mind you, you can get oil lamps with reflectors, either on top (directing the light downward), or behind (directing the light horizontally, across the room).

    Something similar to these, perhaps, with their backs to the window?

    74-1.jpg
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