finger printing

bap98189

dickydonkin wrote: »

Hold management to account? What - for moving with the times and making time and attendance monitoring more efficient? Getting unions involved?

Seems we are harking back to the days of the industrial revolution

I don't think it is unreasonable for the management to explain to staff how the system will work and where/how the fingerprint data will be stored.

There should be no reason for anyone to get unions involved if the company just explain the basics of the system to the staff. By not doing so they are rushing headlong into a conflict, which could be easily avoided by answering a few simple questions.

ktothema

Being someone who's concerned over my own data protection, I'd be very wary if my company brought this in but refused to say how it was being stored and safeguards around it. It should just be as standard as keeping and safeguarding employee details, bank account numbers, etc. If my company refused this info I'd be highly suspicious, admittedly with probably little reason to be but still...

spadoosh

jonathon wrote: »

we use finger print recognition at work to sign in and out it is linked to payroll

Spy!

dacouch wrote: »

Use it at my gym

Spy gym!

Jinx wrote: »

Used it at our work - it wasnt linked to anything outside the building and it wasnt a fingerprint as such - it was a photo replica.

Fake spy!

paddyrg

Poor communication clearly, but these systems are really rather unsinister - they don't 'keep' your fingerprints, just a number that describes a few key features of one finger. You can't take that number and make a fingerprint from it.

ohreally

dickydonkin wrote: »

Hold management to account? What - for moving with the times and making time and attendance monitoring more efficient?

Not only have management failed to explain that is their rationale for progressing with this potentially insidious system, they have failed to offer any explanation to their employees whatsoever. That is treating employees with contempt.

It is an efficient system for clocking in - nothing more sinister than that

You cannot possibly know this given managements refusal to provide their own employees with an explanation

Where I used to work....

You can have no idea what else it was used for. Was it introduced as the gospel according to management?

A signing in book/ fire register would accomplish clocking in and fire drill processes.


Perhaps if management placed their cards on the table and consulted, this may be a less bitter pill to swallow!

prowla

Your employer will already have a lot of sensitive information about you, and it will be held in accordance with the defined rules (data protection, etc.).

The same rules should apply to the new system.

In terms of big brother and all that, I would suggest that it is no more sinister than them having a photograph of you.

My opinion is that it is perfectly reasonable to ask, and they should be able to tell you pretty much the above.

The only situation I could see where it could have any sort of impact is if there is a clocking in/clocking out point; it would mean that it would really have to be you there to clock in/out.

scooby088

I have used this system there a five points on your thumb and finger which is recognised and given a number whereby the number is stored with your name and payroll number. We had this concern about storage and it was only an in house system. Before we used a swipe card system which did get abused by clocking in and out for one another so the fingerprint system stopped that fraud overnight.

1886

At work we all clock in and clock out using a "hand scan". You just place your right palm on the sensors and it's scans your palm. I've always assumed the reason we use a hand scan and not the old style clock in card is because anybody could clock somebody else in. I don't have an issue with my print being stored, never actually thought about it in that sense either.
I would imagine the only reason your company want to use it is so that only you can clock in/out instead of a friend doing it for you if you were late etc.