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LIEBOR - who's to blame

I've just watched something on TV where Labour (Chris Leslie) are blaming the Conservatives for LIEBOR saying that they were pro "light touch" regulation.

The shamelessness of these people knows no bounds!!!
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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Comrade Chris has some chutzpah.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    I reckon it'll turn out to be Gordon Brown's fault.
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Comrade Chris has some chutzpah.

    People talk about Tory arrogance, but it is not a patch on the likes of Ed Balls, Chris Leslie, Rachel Reeves, Chuka Umunna etc.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    edited 29 June 2012 at 6:35PM
    every party was in favour of light touch financial regulation except the loony left who it appears have been proved correct.

    blame is now pointless

    we need to start with a new regulatory scheme that assumes

    -if corruption is possible then it's already taking place
    -chinese walls or firewalls won't work
    -all rules need reinforcing with criminal sanctions with minimum prison terms specified
    -regulators should adopt an adversarial roll on the assumption that wrong doing is taking place
    - any new innovations introduced by banks should be assumed to be fauldulent until proved otherwise


    and I'm sure there are lots more
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    But if British banks are as straight as a die, won't they be at a big disadvantage to American banks?
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • System
    System Posts: 178,423 Community Admin
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    CLAPTON wrote: »


    and I'm sure there are lots more


    The Regulator should not be an ex-banker.
    The Regulator must sign an undertaking that he will never work for a bank after his term of office is over.
    The Regulator will have a fixed term of office and cannot be sacked either by government or parliament.
    The Regulator will have the power to question anybody under oath, and require sight of any document he wishes, government or private.
    The Regulator will receive a fixed fee for his services, and no other benefits.
    The Regulator will receive no public honour, knighthood, etc after he has served his term of office.
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    The Regulator should not be an ex-banker.
    The Regulator must sign an undertaking that he will never work for a bank after his term of office is over.
    The Regulator will have a fixed term of office and cannot be sacked either by government or parliament.
    The Regulator will have the power to question anybody under oath, and require sight of any document he wishes, government or private.
    The Regulator will receive a fixed fee for his services, and no other benefits.
    The Regulator will receive no public honour, knighthood, etc after he has served his term of office.


    although I agree with the sentiment I'm not sure that's very practical.

    the 'regulator' himself will be very little actual regulation; that will be done by the staff

    without banking expertise they would be at a disadvantage compared to those regulated.

    etc
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    The answer lies in calling out what is effectively fraud as a criminal offence and making it stick. If some of these wide boys started doing a drop of porridge it would make the rest sit up and think very long and hard about their modus operandus. The Americans did that in the commercial world sphere with their Sarbanes-Oxley legislation and that certainly shook some trees very hard indeed.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • The_J
    The_J Posts: 1,250 Forumite
    The Regulator should not be an ex-banker.

    Yeah, someone with no experience in banking is going to be a great choice...
    The Regulator must sign an undertaking that he will never work for a bank after his term of office is over.

    Fair enough.
    The Regulator will have a fixed term of office and cannot be sacked either by government or parliament.

    No-one should be unsackable. That amount of power leads to corruption.
    The Regulator will have the power to question anybody under oath, and require sight of any document he wishes, government or private.

    They can actually pretty much do this already.
    The Regulator will receive a fixed fee for his services, and no other benefits.

    Hopefully it's a high fee. Sounds like the worlds shittest job so far.
    The Regulator will receive no public honour, knighthood, etc after he has served his term of office.

    So he's literally doing it just for the money? And he's unsackable? Yeah...that would never lead to him being bribed.
    The J is a Financial Advisor-This site doesn't check anyone's status and as such any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Always seek professional advice.
  • thor
    thor Posts: 5,515 Forumite
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    Wookster wrote: »
    I've just watched something on TV where Labour (Chris Leslie) are blaming the Conservatives for LIEBOR saying that they were pro "light touch" regulation.

    The shamelessness of these people knows no bounds!!!
    Thank f*ck the CONservatives were not in power then. When all this went down they were lampooning Labour for putting in too much regulation. No doubt the tories were afraid their chums might up sticks and leave the country.
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