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Lords Reform....
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grizzly1911 wrote: »Who haven't got a clue about life in the real world of today.
Oh please....
Like the elected lot, mostly straight from the public sector, party committees and local councilors are any better.:rotfl:“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
This house of lords gravy train should have been abolished many years ago.0
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@HAMISH_MCTAVISH
A lot of party business is scheduled/sneaked in so that there will only be a sprinkling of the old dears/die hards. Those on the inside know those on the outside have gone home.
J_B.0 -
This house of lords gravy train should have been abolished many years ago.
Much like your posting privileges...“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Much like your posting privileges...
That's rich coming from the saddest troll on MSE, still bitter on the way I pulled you up on your crap about there being no double recession I see
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Oh please....
Like the elected lot, mostly straight from the public sector, party committees and local councilors are any better.:rotfl:
Like Cameron, Clegg, Osborne they come from "gifted backgrounds" and are so close to reality not.
Didn't say the elected had a clue either, most are in it for feigned grandiosity."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
What does Lords reform have to do with house prices and the economy?
This might help....
http://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/who-owns-britains-land/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328270/A-Britain-STILL-belongs-aristocracy.html0 -
As if it wasn't bad enough that the House of Commons is stuffed full of people elected by the mass ignorant driven largely by self interest, they want to do the same to the Lords.
The real strength of the Lords lies in the hereditaries. A wonderful way to operate checks and balances on an elected body in the Other Place. Those who are against hereditary Lords are not jealous of the important role they voluntarily play in the House of Lords, but simply green with envy of their supposed wealth and allegedly undeserved privilege.
Yes a lot of the life peers also do some great work and many have already proven their credentials, but there is always the taint of political appointment. We need them, but we also need some restriction on their numbers.
As for having directly elected Lords. Unless standing on party or other institutional platforms is outlawed, then the whiff of political taint will be more the stench of party patronage.
Although it's easy to whip up negative emotions against presumed privilege and the hereditary system, has anybody actually asked the potential electorate what they want? When asked about directly elected Mayors, or Police Commissioners, etc., the public generally are not too enthused by the idea of so much representative democracy.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »So back to destroying a cornerstone of the UK constitutional arrangements in the name of democracy.....
You don't let children vote on how to run a nursery class.
Nor do you let lunatics rule the asylum through the power of a majority.
Yet under democracy we allow people uneducated enough and often unintelligent enough to understand the implications of their decisions to determine the direction of a nation.
In a way it's madness.
Yet it's also the least worst of the systems we have tried so far.
Very frustrating....
I have the impression that some lefty liberals do try this. The predictable result is chaos.0 -
Joe_Bloggs wrote: »....
They could be termed Lords Digital.
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J_B.
What a charming idea.
There would be some contemporary resonance in having a House of the Lords Spiritual, Temporal, and Digital.0
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