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Westlife Singer Bankrupt due to Property

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  • nollag2006
    nollag2006 Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    Rock star loses a fortune?

    How is this news?

    A new low, even for the most bearish of bears
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    Plus people tend to overestimate how rich pop artists are - all the stuff you hear like 'xyz signs a £3M deal' doesn't mean xyz get £3M - far from it. Music financing is complicated, but you'd be surprised how little will shake out at the end of that deal once everyone along the way has been paid!
  • princeofpounds
    princeofpounds Posts: 10,396 Forumite
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    Agree on the music financing. In simple terms, the labels always get paid back first on the money they put in, plus a profit. Only then does the artist get more than a basic 'wage'.

    Initially they would likely not have earned much at all, but as time goes by they would have had much more bargaining power vs the label.
  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller Posts: 14,013 Forumite
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    edited 14 June 2012 at 6:45PM
    I noticed he filed in Surrey - then clicked a link to another Irish couple filing for an £800m portfolio - and in there it says:

    And it's not just the Irish - the EU's bankrupts come here to do it to get off light.

    Yup, Kingston-upon-[STRIKE]Liffey[/STRIKE]Thames with automatic discharge on the 11th June, 2013.

    Report Requested For: SHANE FILAN

    Report for Bankruptcy Case

    Individual Details

    Surname FILAN
    Forename(s)
    SHANE
    Title
    Mr
    Gender
    Male
    Occupation

    Date of Birth 05 July 1979
    Last Known Address
    (Sorry - this Address has been withheld)
    Insolvency Case Details

    Case Name SHANE FILAN
    Court
    Kingston-upon-Thames County Court
    Type
    Bankruptcy
    Number
    0000182
    Case Year
    2012
    Order Date
    11 June 2012
    Status
    Currently Bankrupt : Automatic Discharge will be 11 June 2013
    See FootNote
    Case Description (Sorry - this Description has been withheld)

    Insolvency Service Contact Details
    Insolvency Service Office
    Croydon A
    Contact
    Enquiry Desk
    Address
    2nd Floor Sunley House
    Bedford Park
    Croydon
    United Kingdom
    Post Code CR9 1TX - Click Post Code for Map of Office
    (The Insolvency Service is not responsible for the content of external sites.)
    Telephone
    020 8681 5166

    Individual Insolvency Register
    There is a pleasure in the pathless woods, There is a rapture on the lonely shore, There is society, where none intrudes, By the deep sea, and music in its roar: I love not man the less, but Nature more...
  • It was a limited company. So I'm not sure whether he has had to go personally bankrupt or whether his creditors will have taken the entire hit.

    no, the info above shows that he's personally filed for bankruptcy so clearly there's more to it than just the company going bust, he must have had personal liabilities as well.

    quite astonishing really and a shame that we'll probably never know the full story - until of course he writes a book about it :money:
    'Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'
    GALATIANS 6: 7 (KJV)
  • MacMickster
    MacMickster Posts: 3,646 Forumite
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    I remembered reading that Niall Quinn ran into similar difficulties, and that this was his main reason for selling his shares in Sunderland.
    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/its-not-the-pot-of-gold-i-hoped-it-would-be-3067110.html
    Niall Quinn is co-owner of a ghost apartment complex in Co Carlow. The towering block of flats overlooking the River Barrow in Bagenalstown has been empty and unfinished for a number of years after funding for its completion dried up.
    Quinn's company, Manorfield Taverns -- in which he has a 50pc stake -- started the landmark building project at the peak of the boom.
    But it was delayed by planning logjams and the property crash. According to a local property expert, two-bed flats in the complex might have fetched €200,000 in the good times five years ago. Now they would be worth €45,000 to €50,000, if they were finished.
    Quinn says he hopes the 15 one- and two-bed apartments will now be turned into homes for the elderly.
    "We are in discussions about this with the county council, and I would be really happy if that takes place."
    He says: "It was not the pot of gold that I hoped it would be, and it has cost me a lot of money, but I remain committed to the project, and we are capable of finishing it."
    Niall Quinn's company also owns a pub next to the flats. It was closed for more than six years, but reopened two years ago.
    Most recent figures for the pub and apartment development's holding company, Manorfield Taverns, show an annual loss of €541,918.
    Its net liabilities were €3,385,724, according to the latest company accounts for the year up to end of January 2010 before the pub reopened. Cosmo Flood, a developer from Mount Merrion in Dublin, is listed as the other shareholder.

    I suspect that the same fate may befall a number of Irish "names" in coming months.
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • claire16c
    claire16c Posts: 7,074 Forumite
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    I heard on the radio that he had to sell his 300k car. But hes also due to make £4million from the tour hes on now.

    So if thats true I wouldnt feel too sorry for him.
  • i don't feel sorry for him, but i am mildly intrigued to find out how someone in his position with many years of success behind him could find himself in this predicament.

    i get the impression that there's more to it than what we're seeing reported.
    'Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'
    GALATIANS 6: 7 (KJV)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    claire16c wrote: »
    I heard on the radio that he had to sell his 300k car. But hes also due to make £4million from the tour hes on now.

    So if thats true I wouldnt feel too sorry for him.

    If he earns that money whilst bankrupt, doesn't it go to the official receiver to be passed on to creditors?
  • the_flying_pig
    the_flying_pig Posts: 2,349 Forumite
    i don't feel sorry for him, but i am mildly intrigued to find out how someone in his position with many years of success behind him could find himself in this predicament...

    well, westlife would have made him rich, clearly. as others have pointed out his first couple of records & tours would have been on fairly stingy terms, befitting the fact that thousands of other nice-looking boys who coudl sing a bit could have done the same job just as well as him. but they did 10 albums, all of which were #1 sellers [or 2/3 in a couple of cases] in the UK, and plenty of touring. Towards the end of that period he'd have been coining it in.

    but clearly "rich" wasn't enough for shane. he wanted to be 'seriously rich'. his debts are £18m. clearly bought shedloads of pwoperdee.
    FACT.
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