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Spains borrowing costs hit 7%
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People still aren't ready for the level of cuts that are needed to get things in order. So the only answer is to try to drag it out for longer.0
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all i see is years of pain no country should have been governed this way but the people in charge they never come across as ordinary people that have lived day to day life like all of us0
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Graham_Devon wrote: »We can't just invent trillions Hamish,
That's what it will take. €2.3 trillion to be precise.
And they'll get there eventually, because there is no other way out. But they'll try everything else first, until they're finally forced to do the right thing.What it will take, is ending this project.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Spanish bonds back above 7% after, after a recent fall back due to the new EU plans.
Looks like they lasted 2 weeks.0 -
Hopes of a quiet summer are dashed.0
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Graham_Devon wrote: »Spanish bonds back above 7% after, after a recent fall back due to the new EU plans.
Looks like they lasted 2 weeks.
That's a week longer than I thought they'd last. The markets seem to like the last plans, but it's slowly dawned on them that nothing can be sorted for about a year. Question will the markets wait that long and can Spain hold on till help arrives or will it go kaput before then? it's not looking good at the moment, time for another summit maybe?
In the mean time it's all on quite on the Greek front, yet we all know the problems are still there.[FONT="]“I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” ~ Maya Angelou[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]0 -
That's a week longer than I thought they'd last. The markets seem to like the last plans, but it's slowly dawned on them that nothing can be sorted for about a year. Question will the markets wait that long and can Spain hold on till help arrives or will it go kaput before then? it's not looking good at the moment, time for another summit maybe?
In the mean time it's all on quite on the Greek front, yet we all know the problems are still there.
The summit has already been planned. Happening tommorow.
The plans from the last summit are already at risk, as northern countries are suggesting they are not happy to go down the collective debt route, and put themselves at risk on behalf of southern nations.0 -
until the EU powers that be realise that chucking some cash at it doesn't fix the issue it will never be resolved. so 80bn bought them two weeks. big deal. the problem is, investors know that spain is up the creek without a paddle and a few bn here and there (that just adds to the overall debt) is not helping.
its like buying a house which you know is full of cracks, yet the owner simply paints over them. You all know they are still there, so you won't buy it without a massive discount.0 -
The_White_Horse wrote: »so you won't buy it without a massive discount.
I'm sure Mr Ree would buy it at 10% over the asking price :eek:'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'0 -
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