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The Terry Smith solution

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  • he is saying what i have said all along - cut the public sector. look at where all our tax money goes - the vast majority is on public sector pay and pensions and benefits. slash it.

    i would keep the NHS though. however, certain restrictions should be applied - like no translators, no service (except A&E) unless you have lived in the UK for 5 years and paid taxes. Also, people that partake in dangerous sports should have to medical insurance that pays for any work - motorcycle racing, yachting, parachuting etc. Cyclists should also need insurance for accidents. Also any treatment that would be "nice" to have rather than "must" have should be removed. No sex changes and all that nonsense.
  • kabayiri
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    Wookster wrote: »
    That is utter rubbish.

    I've been in several companies in the last 15 years where lack of coding/ programming skills have been a major bottleneck to growth.

    So much so that companies I know are (against their wishes) outsourcing to Eastern Europe.

    You are right.

    After 2000 the UK government cleared visas for 30K IT applicants from non-EU to work here, over a 2 year period. The driver for this was pressure from industry who complained of a lack of skilled IT resource. They wouldn't have agreed to this if there was no skills shortage.
  • Generali
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    purch wrote: »
    Anyone who has had the unfortunate experience of visiting an ER at a US Hospital, receiving a far lower level of service than you would get at any NHS Hospital, and then been presented with a bill for many hundreds of dollars would echo that opinion.

    You encapsulate the problem with the health care debate in the UK in a single sentence. That's a false choice.

    What about the Aussie system where you can see a GP for free or pay for a longer GP consultation in a nicer office? You will be seen quickly and for 'free' if you have a truly life-threatening disease.

    A good example of how the Aussie system works is that my BiL smashed up his knee playing soccer. He was put back on his feet for 'free' without having to wait around for any of the urgent stuff. However, as he was uninsured (and people mostly pay for their own insurance in Aus, even well paid people) he had to pay for his own physiotherapy.

    He couldn't really afford it so he worked out a plan with his therapist that would keep him going for a year with enough therapy that he wouldn't suffer any long term damage. After a year he paid for an operation and the required physio afterwards.

    He's back on his feet and plays soccer 2-3 times/week in winter and runs and cycles in the summer a few years on.

    He earns below the median salary in Aus even now. Then he would have been 'poor'.

    However, as the Aussie Government only spends 30% of GDP rather than the ~45% for the UK Government, he could afford to pay for his own treatment.

    There are as many health systems as there are countries. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that it's the NHS or the US system.
  • CLAPTON
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    Wookster wrote: »
    That is utter rubbish.

    I've been in several companies in the last 15 years where lack of coding/ programming skills have been a major bottleneck to growth.

    So much so that companies I know are (against their wishes) outsourcing to Eastern Europe.


    doubtless you will be able to supply references to loads of job adverts that support this.
  • CLAPTON
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    You are right.

    After 2000 the UK government cleared visas for 30K IT applicants from non-EU to work here, over a 2 year period. The driver for this was pressure from industry who complained of a lack of skilled IT resource. They wouldn't have agreed to this if there was no skills shortage.


    the driver for this, was that prior to year 2000 there was a shortgage of IT workers because of the huge amount of work generated by the 'year2000 problem' .

    after 2000 the work in IT slowed considerably; as usual with government policy they 'solved' the problem only after there cease to be problem.

    obviously industry lobbied for free entry for IT workers as this keeps the price of IT people down

    just like Indian restaurants lobby for cooks from the subcontinent to be let in

    currrently there is no shortage of IT workers in the UK; there may well be a reluctance to pay a living wage but that's a different story
  • the_flying_pig
    the_flying_pig Posts: 2,349 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the driver for this, was that prior to year 2000 there was a shortgage of IT workers because of the huge amount of work generated by the 'year2000 problem' .

    after 2000 the work in IT slowed considerably; as usual with government policy they 'solved' the problem only after there cease to be problem.

    obviously industry lobbied for free entry for IT workers as this keeps the price of IT people down

    just like Indian restaurants lobby for cooks from the subcontinent to be let in

    currrently there is no shortage of IT workers in the UK; there may well be a reluctance to pay a living wage but that's a different story

    question of price, innit, supply curves slope upwards, etc.

    there's a fairly chronic shortage of people willing to do highly skilled work for peanuts.

    not so much of people who'll do it for big bucks.
    FACT.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »

    However, as the Aussie Government only spends 30% of GDP rather than the ~45% for the UK Government, he could afford to pay for his own treatment.

    .


    Apples and Pears though AUS has been able to be a little more selective over its citizens and spending over the the years (apart form the early 19thC;)).

    Does AUS make £x*0bn of net contributions to to an imperfect trading zone?

    * Last headline figure I read was upto £40bn but a quick Google suggest anything from £12bn, governmental, up to £65bn for the UK as a whole.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    doubtless you will be able to supply references to loads of job adverts that support this.

    What is it with geeks and their sense of entitlement?

    The world is full of code monkeys, all willing to do it cheaper and better, and the world of IT really is a world without borders.

    We outsourced most of our corporate IT dept to an overseas provider a long time ago, and it's been a delight. Better service, 24/7 support, cheaper by far, and much, much more reliable.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • CLAPTON
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    What is it with geeks and their sense of entitlement?

    The world is full of code monkeys, all willing to do it cheaper and better, and the world of IT really is a world without borders.

    We outsourced most of our corporate IT dept to an overseas provider a long time ago, and it's been a delight. Better service, 24/7 support, cheaper by far, and much, much more reliable.


    whilst I take no pleasure in your words, you are largely correct.
  • StevieJ
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    N1AK wrote: »

    Some of his stuff is absolutely bang on. We should account for future liabilities and move to having funded pension pots as well as projecting spending more 'holistically'.

    Don't you think that rewmoving the current deficit is enough to be going on with?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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