We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
Debate House Prices
In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Terry Smith solution
Comments
-
he is saying what i have said all along - cut the public sector. look at where all our tax money goes - the vast majority is on public sector pay and pensions and benefits. slash it.
i would keep the NHS though. however, certain restrictions should be applied - like no translators, no service (except A&E) unless you have lived in the UK for 5 years and paid taxes. Also, people that partake in dangerous sports should have to medical insurance that pays for any work - motorcycle racing, yachting, parachuting etc. Cyclists should also need insurance for accidents. Also any treatment that would be "nice" to have rather than "must" have should be removed. No sex changes and all that nonsense.0 -
That is utter rubbish.
I've been in several companies in the last 15 years where lack of coding/ programming skills have been a major bottleneck to growth.
So much so that companies I know are (against their wishes) outsourcing to Eastern Europe.
You are right.
After 2000 the UK government cleared visas for 30K IT applicants from non-EU to work here, over a 2 year period. The driver for this was pressure from industry who complained of a lack of skilled IT resource. They wouldn't have agreed to this if there was no skills shortage.0 -
Anyone who has had the unfortunate experience of visiting an ER at a US Hospital, receiving a far lower level of service than you would get at any NHS Hospital, and then been presented with a bill for many hundreds of dollars would echo that opinion.
You encapsulate the problem with the health care debate in the UK in a single sentence. That's a false choice.
What about the Aussie system where you can see a GP for free or pay for a longer GP consultation in a nicer office? You will be seen quickly and for 'free' if you have a truly life-threatening disease.
A good example of how the Aussie system works is that my BiL smashed up his knee playing soccer. He was put back on his feet for 'free' without having to wait around for any of the urgent stuff. However, as he was uninsured (and people mostly pay for their own insurance in Aus, even well paid people) he had to pay for his own physiotherapy.
He couldn't really afford it so he worked out a plan with his therapist that would keep him going for a year with enough therapy that he wouldn't suffer any long term damage. After a year he paid for an operation and the required physio afterwards.
He's back on his feet and plays soccer 2-3 times/week in winter and runs and cycles in the summer a few years on.
He earns below the median salary in Aus even now. Then he would have been 'poor'.
However, as the Aussie Government only spends 30% of GDP rather than the ~45% for the UK Government, he could afford to pay for his own treatment.
There are as many health systems as there are countries. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that it's the NHS or the US system.0 -
That is utter rubbish.
I've been in several companies in the last 15 years where lack of coding/ programming skills have been a major bottleneck to growth.
So much so that companies I know are (against their wishes) outsourcing to Eastern Europe.
doubtless you will be able to supply references to loads of job adverts that support this.0 -
You are right.
After 2000 the UK government cleared visas for 30K IT applicants from non-EU to work here, over a 2 year period. The driver for this was pressure from industry who complained of a lack of skilled IT resource. They wouldn't have agreed to this if there was no skills shortage.
the driver for this, was that prior to year 2000 there was a shortgage of IT workers because of the huge amount of work generated by the 'year2000 problem' .
after 2000 the work in IT slowed considerably; as usual with government policy they 'solved' the problem only after there cease to be problem.
obviously industry lobbied for free entry for IT workers as this keeps the price of IT people down
just like Indian restaurants lobby for cooks from the subcontinent to be let in
currrently there is no shortage of IT workers in the UK; there may well be a reluctance to pay a living wage but that's a different story0 -
the driver for this, was that prior to year 2000 there was a shortgage of IT workers because of the huge amount of work generated by the 'year2000 problem' .
after 2000 the work in IT slowed considerably; as usual with government policy they 'solved' the problem only after there cease to be problem.
obviously industry lobbied for free entry for IT workers as this keeps the price of IT people down
just like Indian restaurants lobby for cooks from the subcontinent to be let in
currrently there is no shortage of IT workers in the UK; there may well be a reluctance to pay a living wage but that's a different story
question of price, innit, supply curves slope upwards, etc.
there's a fairly chronic shortage of people willing to do highly skilled work for peanuts.
not so much of people who'll do it for big bucks.FACT.0 -
However, as the Aussie Government only spends 30% of GDP rather than the ~45% for the UK Government, he could afford to pay for his own treatment.
.
Apples and Pears though AUS has been able to be a little more selective over its citizens and spending over the the years (apart form the early 19thC;)).
Does AUS make £x*0bn of net contributions to to an imperfect trading zone?
* Last headline figure I read was upto £40bn but a quick Google suggest anything from £12bn, governmental, up to £65bn for the UK as a whole."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
doubtless you will be able to supply references to loads of job adverts that support this.
What is it with geeks and their sense of entitlement?
The world is full of code monkeys, all willing to do it cheaper and better, and the world of IT really is a world without borders.
We outsourced most of our corporate IT dept to an overseas provider a long time ago, and it's been a delight. Better service, 24/7 support, cheaper by far, and much, much more reliable.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »What is it with geeks and their sense of entitlement?
The world is full of code monkeys, all willing to do it cheaper and better, and the world of IT really is a world without borders.
We outsourced most of our corporate IT dept to an overseas provider a long time ago, and it's been a delight. Better service, 24/7 support, cheaper by far, and much, much more reliable.
whilst I take no pleasure in your words, you are largely correct.0 -
Some of his stuff is absolutely bang on. We should account for future liabilities and move to having funded pension pots as well as projecting spending more 'holistically'.
Don't you think that rewmoving the current deficit is enough to be going on with?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply

Categories
- All Categories
- 352.1K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.2K Spending & Discounts
- 245.1K Work, Benefits & Business
- 600.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.5K Life & Family
- 258.9K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.6K Read-Only Boards