How long is reasonable to wait for payrise/new contract?

MarkTed

What I would do if I were in your position is to step up and talk to your supervisor or manager about it. Know if they are looking to hire someone else to replace the one who just left, so that it won't burden and affect your own responsibility.

On the other hand, if they are not responding or says that you will take responsibility of what work was left behind then you should ask/request an increment or a new contract stating your new responsibilities and scope of work.

iheartbristol

Acc72 wrote: »

Your supervisor is looking after his own back.
His manager his looking after his own back.
Neither of the above are going to upset their boss in order to get you a pay rise

This is why I'm starting to get worried.

Also, I know HR isn't my friend, I know they work for the company. But I also know they want to make sure the company is playing fair so that it can't get itself 'in trouble' and that's why if anything I assumed that they might help if I needed it.

I knew this was probably going to happen but what I didn't anticipate was how resentful I'd be of doing the work I'm doing for the pay I'm getting.

iheartbristol

Thanks so much everyone for your opinions and experience, its helped me realise how much I'm not helping myself.

Sambucus_Nigra

iheartbristol wrote: »

I was asked to do the job of someone who'd resigned and I told my supervisor that I would consider it once I was shown a new contract with a new job description and a new salary - that was three weeks ago.

I'm a little confused.

Have you got a new job that entails this person's old job - or are you working in an 'acting-up' capacity?

If you have got a new job, you don't need either a new contract or a new wage. If you are doing it in an 'acting-up' capacity, you also don't need a new contract or a new wage.

You need to really find out what the plan is with this role. HR might not even know you are covering it for more than a few weeks and you might find out an ad is being prepared to fill it.

iheartbristol

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

I'm a little confused.

Have you got a new job that entails this person's old job - or are you working in an 'acting-up' capacity?

If you have got a new job, you don't need either a new contract or a new wage. If you are doing it in an 'acting-up' capacity, you also don't need a new contract or a new wage.

You need to really find out what the plan is with this role. HR might not even know you are covering it for more than a few weeks and you might find out an ad is being prepared to fill it.

I don't want to give too much away without revealing who I am to someone from my company who might use this forum.

My boss, supervisor and I agree that there HAS to be a new contract because my responsibilities are completely changing and my job title HAS to change. We have also agreed that I should have a payrise and I have given them an indication of what I feel I should be on.

However I understand that they may actually need to advertise this role in the end.

Sambucus_Nigra

The meeting at which you all agreed this, was it minuted and have you got a copy?

iheartbristol

Let's just say that I make toy cars in a factory, as do the workers around me. Now I have to not only make the cars along with everyone else, but also coordinate the materials into the process and products coming out of it and who does which bits.

iheartbristol

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

The meeting at which you all agreed this, was it minuted and have you got a copy?

erm. nope.

I am a moron.

Cheers

InsideInsurance

iheartbristol wrote: »

Back dating pay definitely won't happen. But the rest of what you say makes a lot of sense.

In my example the person in question had been given an explicit "you've got the job and need to start tomorrow", had agreed a salary and taken a significant change in role with the understanding it would take time to go through HR to formalise it. Only because of the excessive time did my LM agree for me to backdate the salary (plus the agreed new salary really was very low for what they'd be doing and how good they were but without experience they wouldnt be able to command the "market rate")

Acc72

iheartbristol wrote: »

its helped me realise how much I'm not helping myself.

I wouldn't say that, don't beat yourself up.

From what I understand, you have not done anything "wrong".

I assume that non of the conversations you have had with your boss have been minuted and that you have nothing in writing ?

You just need to speak with your boss and ask them when you will receive written confirmation of the changes in role and salary etc.

The person who previously did this role has now left the company, you have shown that you can do the job so you want it on a permanent basis (non of this "acting up" business).

Ps - are you now effectively covering 2 roles (your old role plus the new one) or is somebody covering your old role ?