After some HR advice

whitewing

Also, even if they insist on your change and can't give you another job within time frames, wouldn't you be better off sticking with it to give yourself time to get another job yourself.

getmore4less

whitewing wrote: »

If they have three wards with phone cover for 5 hours a day, then it sounds like they need 3 people...I get that.

What are they planning to do to cover any of you being on holiday? Wouldn't they be better to have a 4th person to cover the additional hours and also to cover holiday? May mean that you couldn't take hols if one of the others was off. And of course it requires them to recruit a very flexible 4th person.

agree with the above, what about weekends?

anyway

15 shifts 52 weeks is 780shift.

minimum holidays is 5.6 say 6weeks (NHS is better)

so one person can do 46 shifts.

shifts per week
1 17 people
2 8.5 people
3 5.7 people
4 4.2 people
5 3.4 people

thats before some sick cover so minimum is a combination of 4 people.

if you currently do 4 shifts and other 3 shifts

4*46+3*46 is 322 so 458 to cover

1 10 people
2 5 people
3 3.3 people
4 2.5 people
5 2 people


FInding people that would work annual contract so you do more shifts during term time and less in the school holidays and they do more during the school hols would be ideal.

Fffectivly someone that wants more holidays when the kids are at school so you can reduce childcare in teh holidays

KiKi

Without knowing your workplace, the need they have seems fair enough to me. They are saying they need three people for 25 hours each a week. At the moment they have two people, covering only 37.5 hours between them.

Re the HR consultation, make a proposal of 4 people to ensure you have adequate cover for holidays. Suggest how those hours could work. The difficulty will arise if the '4th' person only needs to do a couple of hours here and there - which will be hard to recruit for, and may not be viable.

Do reconsider saying 'no', though, until you are sure of another job.

All the best.
KiKi

getmore4less

The key requirement seems to be 3 people between 1:30 and 2:30 5 days a week.

This cannot be done with 3 people.

the secondary change needs 2 extra people to increase the current cover to 3*25hr if the current 2 don't change hours.

Trying to do this with 3 people is not going to work.


This would worry me considerbly it shows a lack of understanding of how to plan basic resourcing, if they go through with this holiday and sick cover will be a nightmare.

I suspect that X-cover will happen which undermines the need in the first place.

what are the current hours covered by the 2 people?

What are the holiday allowances?

getmore4less

Need the real holiays to do the minimum cover.

ohreally

131.25 hrs/ 23.33 days...based on 4 day week @ 22.5hrs and 10 months remaining holiday year remaining.

157.5 hrs/ 28 days per year.