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IMF says Britain must relax austerity if eurozone crisis escalates

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  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I can anticipate the replies, along the lines of 'What austerity' ;) Has Ed Balls moved jobs :) or is the French view shining through?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9281686/IMF-says-Britain-must-relax-austerity-if-eurozone-crisis-escalates.html

    She's also saying we should cut the Public Service wage bill even further & use the money on infrastructure projects.
  • IMF tells UK to consider rate cut to boost growth

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18158226

    another blow to the 'raise interest rates' brigade. now even the imf is saying we should be cutting them

    presumably the imf has some sort of vi :rotfl:
    'Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'
    GALATIANS 6: 7 (KJV)
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    IMF tells UK to consider rate cut to boost growth

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18158226

    another blow to the 'raise interest rates' brigade. now even the imf is saying we should be cutting them

    presumably the imf has some sort of vi :rotfl:


    IMO a rate cut form 0.5% is pointless, it is zero to all intents and purposes and apart from big business irrelevant.

    Banks will still price according to the market and risk reward. Fixed savings rates at 4% for 2years + aren't exactly low only instant access passbook accounts are pants.

    If it ain't happening at current levels shaving an extra 0.25%, or such, off isn't going to be the answer.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,553 Forumite
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    It would put more money in to the pockets of anyone with a tracker mortgage tho :) And may be have some psychological impact in reinforcing the low rates are here to stay mantra.

    THey also recomend more QE, again if Eur problems worsen the economy more than expected.
    IMO a rate cut form 0.5% is pointless, it is zero to all intents and purposes and apart from big business irrelevant.

    Banks will still price according to the market and risk reward. Fixed savings rates at 4% for 2years + aren't exactly low only instant access passbook accounts are pants.

    If it ain't happening at current levels shaving an extra 0.25%, or such, off isn't going to be the answer.
    I think....
  • DaddyBear
    DaddyBear Posts: 1,208 Forumite
    Inevitable.

    You can't cut your way out of a recession.

    And you can't borrow your way out of debt. I'm beginning to think that the only chance the UK has is to send Merv to Las Vegas and put all our money on Black.
  • The only thing the UK economy needs right now is the full recession that it so badly needs with no tinkering. And THEN and only then will we start getting the proper organic growth that our economy needs.
    People sometimes forget the postives of recession, for a start they clear out dead wood. I go along the line that many economists go along with in that the economy is living breathing wild animal, you can only control it to a degree.

    If we look at the housing market for example(which is what this board is supposed to be about), we have millions of potential sellers who are still living in pre 2007 days, where their houses were ramped up by what is today considered reckless debt. Those days are long gone and today we are now in a credit crunch, the markets are telling property prices to collapse, it is only a matter of time now.

    Greece will probably be the trigger in my opinion, for too long now many of the Euro countrys have been trying to fix their problems without pain... Impossible.
    The UK IMO is one of a few countries that has gone someway to doing the right thing, sadly it is not nearly enough.

    I knew this day was coming, as did a handful of others, we started our own personal austerity measures a few years ago:)
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Could we have negative rates?

    A rate cut would be down to 0%, no point in doing 0.25%. So could we go further and go negative?
  • N1AK
    N1AK Posts: 2,903 Forumite
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    Inevitable.

    You can't cut your way out of a recession.

    What people who parrot this incessantly seem to ignore is that simply avoiding recession isn't the only consideration.

    If you borrow £50,000 and re-mortgage you can spend widely for a couple of years (avoiding recession) but you've just dug yourself a bigger hole to climb out of in the end.
    Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...
  • The_J
    The_J Posts: 1,250 Forumite
    N1AK wrote: »
    What people who parrot this incessantly seem to ignore is that simply avoiding recession isn't the only consideration.

    If you borrow £50,000 and re-mortgage you can spend widely for a couple of years (avoiding recession) but you've just dug yourself a bigger hole to climb out of in the end.

    What if you invested that money in a business idea that returned a regular monthly income of £1,000?
    The J is a Financial Advisor-This site doesn't check anyone's status and as such any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Always seek professional advice.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    The_J wrote: »
    What if you invested that money in a business idea that returned a regular monthly income of £1,000?

    Agreed but most small businesses fail don't they?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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