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Will savers take a hit with the 30% flat tax..

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Haven't you heard? The BoE hate savers and seem to want them punished at every opportunity.

    What has this got to do with the BOE?
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    What has this got to do with the BOE?
    Apparently, the government now listen to their advice.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Why don't they do away with income tax and replace it with a payroll tax. That might stop people forever bleating about how much tax they pay out of their "own" money.

    If we don't want people to have the money, don't tell them it's "theirs" and then take it off them. Just take it before they ever see it.
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    pqrdef wrote: »
    Why don't they do away with income tax and replace it with a payroll tax. That might stop people forever bleating about how much tax they pay out of their "own" money.

    If we don't want people to have the money, don't tell them it's "theirs" and then take it off them. Just take it before they ever see it.

    I don't think many people are stupid enough to be taken in by that. Could be wrong though, surprising how many do not realise that they are in effect actually paying the employers NI at the moment.
  • chucknorris
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    coastline wrote: »
    A proposal thats been in the press in the last few days...
    Simplify our system...NI...VAT...CG...Income tax...
    Our savings are taxed at 20% now so we may be in for another bad day...any views..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/9202370/Osborne-urged-to-introduce-30pc-income-tax-for-all.html

    http://www.myfinances.co.uk/savings/2012/05/21/tax-commission-calls-for-30-flat-tax-rate-on-income-and-capi


    Our savings are taxed at 40% now if your salary/other income takes you into the 40% tax band (which ours does).
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  • ukcarper
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    Which pensioners? Normal pensioners won't suffer much, probably won't even notice it. Have to have a fair chunk of svaings at todays rates to even get taxed in the first place.

    Any pensioner with a pension of more than about £13k would be worse off. They would lose about £100 a thousand above that if I've done my sums right.
  • michaels
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    Problem with taxing interest income though is that it is effectively taxing inflation. I am all for a single harmonised tax rate and don't see why people should pay less just because the income is classed as interest but I think only real returns on savings should be taxed otherwise it is another incentive for the govt to inflate away savings...
    I think....
  • StevieJ
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Any pensioner with a pension of more than about £13k would be worse off. They would lose about £100 a thousand above that if I've done my sums right.

    Why 13k and not £10.5k?
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • coastline
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    Which pensioners? Normal pensioners won't suffer much, probably won't even notice it. Have to have a fair chunk of svaings at todays rates to even get taxed in the first place.

    Pensioners with a second pension will be taxed at 30% over £10,500...instead of 20%...the state pension is forecast to rise to at least £7,000 in a few years time..
    Its compulsory to have a private pension as from this year so it will affect all...of course those who have decent pensions today may be paying the current 40%..
    Wouldnt really bother me if it were all simplified at 30% but I'd guess the government would reduce its employment levels somewhere..
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Why 13k and not £10.5k?

    I took account of lower tax allowance for new pensioners but as you say it will be £10.5k for existing pensioneers.
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