CSA say they have made an overpayment of £1800. Help please

skibadee

Even if you and yr ex were not seperated you would not be entitled to CB with a child in higher education.

I'm afraid your child will have to do what other children/young adults do in this situation...wether parents are together or not.....get a part-time job to help support themselves.

13Kent

cjj wrote: »

To be fair my child had gone to uni and I am still willing to support him so he does not get into too much debt ie he lives at home. So the nrp just walks away from this when he reaches 18 does he. Sorry didnt realise that was the case

Not necessarily, my OH and I are quite prepared to support both his children through further education if that is what they choose to do, and fully intend to do so. However the amount we pay will be what we choose to pay depending on the needs of the child and our finances at the time, and the money will be paid directly to his children not via the PWC - oh and we would expect the PWC to make a similar contribution towards supporting them through their further education too.

kevin137

I always thought, that the PWC also got a copy of the schedule as well as the NRP....

That being the case, it would clearly show any arrears and the time scale for how often it should be paid... And reassessment would then introduce a new schedule and you would of been notified again.

I feel sorry for you for being in this situation, but they would of notified you in writing what and how long the arrears where payable for.

clearingout

13Kent wrote: »

Not necessarily, my OH and I are quite prepared to support both his children through further education if that is what they choose to do, and fully intend to do so. However the amount we pay will be what we choose to pay depending on the needs of the child and our finances at the time, and the money will be paid directly to his children not via the PWC - oh and we would expect the PWC to make a similar contribution towards supporting them through their further education too.

presumably you also expect the PWC to maintain a home for the 'child' to return to during holidays for the next 3 years? Or would you be understanding if she were to say I can't afford it, I'm moving to a one bed flat, I can't parent my child anymore, he'll have to live with you for 5 months of the year and I won't be making any direct contribution towards that?

Marisco

clearingout wrote: »

presumably you also expect the PWC to maintain a home for the 'child' to return to during holidays for the next 3 years? Or would you be understanding if she were to say I can't afford it, I'm moving to a one bed flat, I can't parent my child anymore, he'll have to live with you for 5 months of the year and I won't be making any direct contribution towards that?

So what would you have happen? CSA paid until the "child" leaves home permanently? So an NRP could be paying for a 28 year old "child" to live at home?????

Bluemeanie_2

clearingout wrote: »

presumably you also expect the PWC to maintain a home for the 'child' to return to during holidays for the next 3 years? Or would you be understanding if she were to say I can't afford it, I'm moving to a one bed flat, I can't parent my child anymore, he'll have to live with you for 5 months of the year and I won't be making any direct contribution towards that?

You don't HAVE to return home during the holidays. 18 is old enough to look after yourself. I moved to another country on my own at that age!

13Kent

clearingout wrote: »

presumably you also expect the PWC to maintain a home for the 'child' to return to during holidays for the next 3 years? Or would you be understanding if she were to say I can't afford it, I'm moving to a one bed flat, I can't parent my child anymore, he'll have to live with you for 5 months of the year and I won't be making any direct contribution towards that?

In the same way that we have been maintaining a home with extra bedrooms to accommodate the childrenand for them to return to at weekends and holidays for the past 10 + years? - Yes! - and we'd be happy if the PWC moved to a one bed flat and would welcome the children into our home instead.

13Kent

and we'd be happy if the PWC moved to a one bed flat and would welcome the children into our home instead.[/QUOTE]

And if this did occur would you expect the PWC to pay us?

clearingout

13Kent wrote: »

In the same way that we have been maintaining a home with extra bedrooms to accommodate the childrenand for them to return to at weekends and holidays for the past 10 + years? - Yes! - and we'd be happy if the PWC moved to a one bed flat and would welcome the children into our home instead.

so basically it would be fine to 'force' the hand of the PWC and the child in this way - basically you have a home with us and your mother can downgrade and you like it or leave it? what about what the child wants - going 'home' is important to many, regardless of whether or not the grown up child may perceive himself to have more than one home.

No Marisco, I don't expect maintenance to be paid to the age of 28 or even whilst a child is at university - I accept there needs to be a cut off point and that the point of a child going into university is reasonable. However, there is an expectation, I think, that a grow up child in education can return to their home whilst they are studying. And as such, an expectation that the parents keep a room open. This can be a huge problem for separated parents when child benefit etc. stops and some recognition of that from the NRP is, I believe, important - suggesting that the grown up child should see their PWC have to downgrade their housing so that they are removed but that it's OK 'cos they have a home with their NRP isn't acceptable to me - it ignores established ties, forces children to pick one parent over the other, that kind of thing. Equally, saying it's OK to leave an 18 year old to make their own way in the world isn't acceptable to me either - I was travelling on the other side of the world at 21, but I knew I had a home to come back to if I wanted/needed to.

Of course those of you who have shouted me down here are those who are happy to see the ex on her knees, aren't you?!

Marisco

clearingout wrote: »

Of course those of you who have shouted me down here are those who are happy to see the ex on her knees, aren't you?!

Not really no. But when you have had a PWC who is quite happy to see the NRP on their knees, couldn't care less if the NRP was homeless, just so she can keep her "lifestyle", then no I couldn't care less. Especially as he'd been more than compliant the whole time! The best letter the NRP ever had, was the one off the CSA saying their liability was at an end!! Happy days:j

As Kent says, the NRP has to keep a bigger home than they need as well, for the sake of the kids, unfortunately we couldn't afford anything larger than a one bed, because of the CSA and PWC. Luckily we had a huge living room that we slept in when the kids came to stay over.

Over the months I've read your back story, and you are one of the "good guys", but you have to accept that not everyone is as reasonable as you, and many others. Some of us have horrendous experiences of PWC's, and obviously this is going to color their perspective of situations.

We never stopped "supporting" the "kids", but we were dammed if we would support the PWC, especially in view of the way she behaved all through their younger years! By the time "kids" are in uni/college/FE, then the PWC must know that CSA will finish, so she should make provision for it, and not rely on CSA or the oh forking out to her household.

I'm sure most NRP's carry on supporting their kids (I'm not meaning the deadbeats) through further education, but supporting the kids, not the lifestyle of a PWC that she thinks she's entitled to. My oh will never have anything to reproach himself for, he was always compliant and paid his dues, and more, he fought to see the kids, under conditions that most would have given up or slit their wrists!!! The saving grace to all this is, the kids grow up!!!:)