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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 259 Forumite
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    I would tell them to go get a job instead of looking out their window all day. its your house so F them

    I'll tell that to my 98 year old grand mother then, shall I...
  • Tina20
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    Your neighbours sound like idiots. It wouldn't surprise me if they were the type to start a campaign against wind farms cause they spoil the purty view.
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  • Cardew
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    !!!!!! wrote: »
    I would tell them to go get a job instead of looking out their window all day. its your house so F them

    The OP gets on well with his neighbours; hence the dilemma.

    With your attitude, it presumably would not be a situation you ever experience;)
  • Martyn1981
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    edited 1 May 2012 at 6:39PM
    larkim wrote: »
    Just to continue one more time, the Prestwich case seemed to hang particularly on the fact that the reflection would cause a "serious detrimental" effect. I can understand / appreciate that - having to close your curtains on a sunny day whilst sat in the lounge to avoid blinding light directly into your eyes would seem to me a serious impact.

    Matt

    I get the same effect from my neighbours green house. When the sun starts to go over the house, it shines away towards the greenhouse, then reflects back into our living room, via a small conservatory.

    Only happens when the sun is at the right height, angle, and good weather. It lasts for about 30 mins. We pull the curtain part way. Lovely neighbours, well they were till March this year and last when sadly she and he both passed away.

    Pulling a curtain and staying friends doesn't seem like a lot of bother to me. In fact more effort in objecting to the council than pulling a curtain. Perhaps that's why no objections to the couples planning application were made?

    Mart.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

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  • grahamc2003
    grahamc2003 Posts: 1,771 Forumite
    I'm pleased the current consensus on here is that people shouldn't complain if there's something they think spoils their view or their enjoyment of their house.

    Should make the building of Nuclear powerstations a much simpler process without all the complaining nimbys.
  • EricMears
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    I'm pleased the current consensus on here is that people shouldn't complain if there's something they think spoils their view or their enjoyment of their house.

    Should make the building of Nuclear powerstations a much simpler process without all the complaining nimbys.


    There are many reasons why one might want to oppose the building of a nuclear power station but I'm afraid "spoiling their view or their enjoyment of their house" don't appear to be material considerations.


    From
    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/gen...aqapplyprocess
    What are material considerations?


    A material consideration is a matter that should be taken into account in deciding a planning application or on an appeal against a planning decision.

    Material considerations can include (but are not limited to):

    (I haven't included their very long list)

    However, issues such as loss of view, or negative effect on the value of properties are not material considerations.
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  • jamesingram
    jamesingram Posts: 301 Forumite
    Pv is permitted developement unless on a listed building or on a wall on the principle elevation in a conservation area , same as a 3m2 porch or a rear single storey 3m/house width extension .
    Would the council ask an individual to remove his new porch or extension due to complaint from a nieghbour ?
  • Cardew
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    EricMears wrote: »
    There are many reasons why one might want to oppose the building of a nuclear power station but I'm afraid "spoiling their view or their enjoyment of their house" don't appear to be material considerations.


    From
    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/gen...aqapplyprocess

    That is for planning permission, which is clearly not required for PV panels.

    The issue is quite simple! The OP's neighbours don't like panels and don't want them on houses in their road. If he goes ahead and ignores their objections, it is almost certain that no action will be taken by council if a formal complaint is made.

    However it will obviously upset some of those neighbours and possibly/probably damage a hitherto good relationship.

    It doesn't matter if you or I like the appearance of panels, or even consider them a work of art! The fact remains that many people do dislike them.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
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    Pv is permitted developement unless on a listed building or on a wall on the principle elevation in a conservation area , same as a 3m2 porch or a rear single storey 3m/house width extension .
    Would the council ask an individual to remove his new porch or extension due to complaint from a nieghbour ?

    Who has suggested that the council might take action to remove the panels if they are installed?
  • EricMears
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    edited 1 May 2012 at 9:31PM
    Cardew wrote: »
    That is for planning permission, which is clearly not required for PV panels.

    I'd tend to agree with that statement - and so indeed do the NE Derbyshire planners.

    However, if you live in Prestwich, the (national !) law on planning seems to be interpreted differently.
    Who has suggested that the council might take action to remove the panels if they are installed?
    Are you the only person on this forum not following the Prestwich case ?
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