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FSA: High income multiple mortgages lower risk than low income multiple mortgages

The FSA has helpfully published a list of default rates by loan to income ratio for mortgages.

Does sort of put things into perspective.....

<2.5 = 1.56%

2.5 = 1.35%

3.5 = 1.18%

4.0 = 1.22%

4.5 = 0.88%

5.0+ = 1.43%

All LTI values total = 1.21%

The lowest default rate is for those borrowing an income multiple of between 4.5 and 5.0 times income.

The highest default rate is for those borrowing an income multiple of less than 2.5 times income.

Very interesting, and totally undermines one of the main arguments to restrict lending to 3.5 times income.
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  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    Mortgages are based on affordability now. 4-4.5x joint is the norm now with a few lenders going as high as 5.

    Affordability is a much better way of working out suitability.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Emy1501 wrote: »
    Mortgages are based on affordability now. 4-4.5x joint is the norm now with a few lenders going as high as 5.

    Affordability is a much better way of working out suitability.

    Actual average mortgage lending is consistently around an average of 3.2x.

    This is consistent, as lenders maintain their new mortgage business at a given rate.
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Actual average mortgage lending is consistently around an average of 3.2x.

    This is consistent, as lenders maintain their new mortgage business at a given rate.

    Yeah meant to say that lenders will lend up to between 4-5 as norm now
  • Thrugelmir
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    Emy1501 wrote: »
    Yeah meant to say that lenders will lend up to between 4-5 as norm now

    This is counterbalanced by lending at far lower multiples.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    This is counterbalanced by lending at far lower multiples.

    Any comment on why the lowest multiple lending is the riskiest? :)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    I can smell Hamish's desperation.
  • Thrugelmir
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    The last of a dying breed. Seems if most have conceded that the boom days are over.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The last of a dying breed. Seems if most have conceded that the boom days are over.

    So you can't explain why the lowest multiple lending is the riskiest. :)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Hamish, stop cherry picking data.

    Theres so much stuff in there, that completely undermines so many of your arguments. Especially the interest only mortgage section, where they conclude that interest only mortgages were taken mainly on affordability grounds. Bet you detested that section.

    The key with these threads is what you haven't highlighted and started a thread on. And theres a lot of it.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Wookster wrote: »
    I can smell Hamish's desperation.

    Excellent.

    Another one to add to the "desperation index".

    Cheers.:beer:
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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