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Rents down again.

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  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    The fall is a minor one, the additional profit due to low interest rates is MASSIVE, so anyone on a low tracker margin is still well ahead of the game.

    Are many of the people who have more recently gone into BTL on these low rate trackers?
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,795 Forumite
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    Are many of the people who have more recently gone into BTL on these low rate trackers?

    To be honest I don't really care about other landlords (sorry but my family comes first, I am not a spokesman for all landlords). However I would point out that your comment was specifically responding to mine which was limited to those on low margin BOE trackers.
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 20 April 2012 at 5:53PM
    Strange thing...

    Food prices up...bad
    Fuel prices up...bad
    Insurance up...bad
    Taxes up...bad
    Water up...bad
    Telecommunications up...bad
    Mortgage rates up...bad
    Stamp duty up...bad
    Domestic energy up...bad
    Clothing up...bad
    Service fees up...bad
    Toll fees up...bad
    TV licence up...bad

    But....
    House prices up...good

    Rent prices down..."Don't panic!!" With the increased cost of moving (bad), increased cost of stamp duty (bad) and renters making use of the decreased costs of stamp duty (bad) and increasing difficulties getting a mortgage (bad) and increased costs of mortgages (bad)...

    ....People will be more reliant on rentals and therefore the price will increase and all those bad things will become.... (good).

    And anyway, London has seen the fastet increase in prices, so that's good.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    But the majority of those are consumables and services. Housing is an investment vehicle people live in so therefore a completely different kettle of fish.

    Rent is a service....

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Once contrary, rent is dead money.

    You appear to have quoted my post, but simply ignored the content within it.

    What are you saying? Does the thumbs down icon represent that you think I'm wrong? Rent isn't a service? What is it? A simple cash cow?

    All this is, is if you can't personally profit from the item, you suggest the price going up is bad. If you personally profit, the price going up is good.

    Thing is, many many people can see that just because they personally profit, it's not always good.
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17769758

    I'm on a bit of a Hamish roll today.

    News out today show a reduction in rents across England and Wales. That's 2 months on the trot now.

    But don't worry the huge surge of FTB'ers trying to beat the stamp duty holiday is now over so rents are expected to rocket again soon.

    Overall rents are still up 2.7% on a year ago.........that'll be lower than the rate of inflation then.



    Rents have RISEN in London and the south east.....................
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  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    I just checked my specific postcode and compared it to 2010 and 2001.

    Shared Room: down by 5p/week since 2010
    1-bedroom: down by £7/week since 2010
    2-bedroom: down by £10/week since 2010
    3-bedroom: down by £5/week since 2010
    4-bedroom: down by £12/week since 2010
    5-bedoom: down by £47/week since 2010 (mostly because it's removed, so is now the 4-bed rate)
    Pastures doesn't live in London so I guess we can't apply the 'London is skewing the rent figures' argument...
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17769758

    I'm on a bit of a Hamish roll today.

    News out today show a reduction in rents across England and Wales. That's 2 months on the trot now.

    But don't worry the huge surge of FTB'ers trying to beat the stamp duty holiday is now over so rents are expected to rocket again soon.

    Overall rents are still up 2.7% on a year ago.........that'll be lower than the rate of inflation then.

    Well lower than real inflation, even lower than the made up CPLie so safe to say the bear market in property has not yet touched bottom ;)
  • Certainly rents are now rising year-on-year in our agency chain. No need for fancy stats when you've got your eyes and ears open to the reality of the market. Not a good to be stuck in rental.


    Another one who does not understand the difference between price and value.

    The price of everything is going up as the worlds currency supply gets expanded. The value can be going down however if the price is not going up as much as real inflation.

    Rents along with property are going up less than real inflation. This is why the property bear market has not yet touched bottom.
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