Can arrears be taken from P/T fireman?

Shermanator123

Hi, I'm aware Firemen are exempt from paying Csa from their wages but I was wondering if Csa arrears can be taken from that wage?

bdt1

Not sure but how on Earth on Firemen exempt when nurses, Police etc not? Can't see it to be honest as if employed by an employer CSA will take CSA, only if person self-employed they cannot take it direct from source, so sure they will take from a firemans wage at source

bdt1

Arrears sorry, that's another matter they want it negotiated to be paid in 2 years, or they will get CCJ, bailiffs and charge on your property unless you can prove arrears incorrect.......maybe worth asking for £10 data protection file ..........pm me, regarding interim assessments/full assessments etc etc all impacts massively and you wouldnt even realise unless you investigate and ask for DATA Protection file

Shermanator123

Hi Btd,
Yes its shocking but firemen,coastguards and other emergency services are exempt on those wages with regards to a CSA assessment its wrong but that is Csa regulations, Ive argued and argued with the Csa on this so I googled it and there it was in black and white the system is soooo wrong.

bdt1

Prob not but then enforcement will follow, eg bailiffs visiting property, CCJ's charge on property which is usual CSA action (we know from experience despithe not owing money as it was a CSA mistake)

Cannot believe Police and other professionals exempt if firefighters not..............ridiculous or there would be a mass recruitmnent from single dads!!! I'm a District Nurse why would another propfessional be exempt from conditons that I am privvy to !!!!!!!!

System

Note that the only exemption is the pay for the part-time job of fireman etc. If he has other work then that can be included for CSA purposes.

Full-time firemen etc are not exempt CSA assessment on their pay

Shermanator123

Thanks !!!!!!, Nrp earns more on p/t fireman wage than on his other job its crazy!!! However I was asking the question as the arrears they have asked Nrp to pay back would take 6 years at the rate they have stated.

System

It all hinges on how the following is interpreted

According to Schedule 1, Paragraph 4 (2) of the Maintenance Calculations and Special Cases Regulations 2000 "payments made in respect of the performance of duties as a part-time firefighter are not included within the calculation of a non-resident parent’s net weekly income".

Arrears aren't calculated based on NRP income as I understand it but on what is owed being paid back in a reasonable time.

Shermanator123

Hmmm, thanks for that, do you think then they could take arrears then off that wage? Nrp is non compliant so always on DEO so I was wondering if they could they take arrears off that wage?

System

I think that you are in the hands of whoever in CSA is making the decision. It is so open to interpretation that it can go either way..

TBH I think it is totally wrong that you can earn up to about 15k as a p/t fireman and not have to pay CSA. Sod the altruistic reason of it being a voluntary job to help the community. At the end of the day you get paid to do a job like everybody else so should have it included for any debts owed.

At 15k you don't need another job, you can make that up to a decent amount with benefits and deprive your children of maintenance

iluvfreebies

The short answer is no - however if the case goes to court and the judge decides he can order that a deo is imposed on these earnings. is unlikely to happen though where any kind of payments are in place - judges really dont want to be involved with maintenance matters if any sort of payment is being made.