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New Job/notice period Dilema, what would you do?
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RedSoleShoes wrote: »If you called in sick, to claim SSP, you would have to complete a form, so if you don't complete the form then nothing will be going on HMRC records. Either your current employer would pay you company sick pay or not pay you at all. Well that's not true. The employer is obliged to pay SSP (even if it is company sick pay, it includes SSP!) whether or not you sign the form, and they will declare it as such a payment on their HMRC returns. The self-certification form is for the employers use - nothing at all to do with paying SSP. If you phone in sick then you start clocking time for an SSP payment.
You gave them notice and they are clearly being awkward by not letting you go earlier. No, they aren't being awkward. They are expecting their employees to work their notice period. If the shoe were on the other foot, would you describe the employee as being awkward if they insisted on being paid notice when the employer didn't want to?As with most companies, it highly unlikely that you not being there for one week is going to cause them anything other than a bit of extra work for someone else. The same would happen if you were genuinely sick anyway. And that makes lying better does it?
Personally I would call in sick but only if I knew this would not come back on me (ie. being seen out, reference issue etc). So it is your call really.
And how hard will it be to make a call to the new employer and ask to speak to the OP - which will pretty much confirm that they are "out".0 -
RedSoleShoes wrote: »If you called in sick, to claim SSP, you would have to complete a form, so if you don't complete the form then nothing will be going on HMRC records. Either your current employer would pay you company sick pay or not pay you at all.
You gave them notice and they are clearly being awkward by not letting you go earlier. As with most companies, it highly unlikely that you not being there for one week is going to cause them anything other than a bit of extra work for someone else. The same would happen if you were genuinely sick anyway.
Personally I would call in sick but only if I knew this would not come back on me (ie. being seen out, reference issue etc). So it is your call really.
LOL! Brilliant, an employer thats awkward for keeping to a contract term....The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!
If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!
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Googlewhacker wrote: »LOL! Brilliant, an employer thats awkward for keeping to a contract term....
No one is indispensible and insisting an employee works the last 5 days of notice (not forgetting they have already worked 3 full weeks of notice) is not really going to benefit anyone.
A director at my company resigned and has given much less than the contractual 6 months notice. The CEO has acknowleged that forcing someone to work full notice is usually futile for both parties.0 -
RedSoleShoes wrote: »No one is indispensible and insisting an employee works the last 5 days of notice (not forgetting they have already worked 3 full weeks of notice) is not really going to benefit anyone.
A director at my company resigned and has given much less than the contractual 6 months notice. The CEO has acknowleged that forcing someone to work full notice is usually futile for both parties.
Doesn't make it awkward though asking the employee to stay those 5 days, yes they may not be running at 100% but whatever they do maybe satisfactory.
Thus, the employer benefits...The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!
If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!
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Googlewhacker wrote: »Doesn't make it awkward though asking the employee to stay those 5 days, yes they may not be running at 100% but whatever they do maybe satisfactory.
Maybe, maybe not. From what the OP said, it sounded like they were being awkward. For all we know, she may be the one being awkward but I only heard her side so I was basing my comments on the info she gave.0 -
RedSoleShoes wrote: »Maybe, maybe not. From what the OP said, it sounded like they were being awkward. For all we know, she may be the one being awkward but I only heard her side so I was basing my comments on the info she gave.
Yes, it's awkward to expect an employee to adhere to their contractual notice.
About as awkward as to expect an employer to pay you your contractual wage and give you your contractual holidays...0 -
I would go to work tomorrow and tell them i do not intend to work the last 5 days, and live with the consequences (if any), your boss obviously knew you were looking for something else following your conversation about your probationary period.0
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