Gum Disease

tesuhoha

McKneff wrote: »

Ive an appointment early May with my Dentist and I'll ask about the Sonic toothbrush, Ive been using one for many years.
Thanks for the Pm and the above

Please let me know what he says. However, if he says they are rubbish I won't believe it. Since I have been using it I have never had any plaque build up, although partly due to the Q10, it makes your teeth feel so smooth and I have a very sweet tooth.

brook2jack

The most recent review of the literature shows q10 has no effect on gum disease and indeed the manufacturers of one supplement were successfully taken to court or falsely claiming q10 would control gum disease. Their claims were based on research over forty years old and since discredited.

"Many Q10 studies were performed 15 to 30 years ago without the benefit of modern experimental design and may not be highly credible based on contemporary evidenced-based review criteria.26 In a review of research up to 1995, the results found limited data, no grounds for claims made, evidence that some data had inadequate statistical analysis,"

There has been reviews since which have substantiated these claims of no evidence that q10 has any effect on gum disease.

However it is well proven that excellent oral hygiene does control gum disease and the fact your teeth now feel very smooth after cleaning and you have no plaque build up has alot to do with the control of your problems. Plaque left undisturbed for more than 72 hours turns into tartar . Even supporters of q10 don't claim it has any effect on plaque and we know the most important factor for controlling gum disease is getting rid of the plaque around your gums.

Citygirl1

I use an electric toothbrush and my dentist, who is very good, has said they are the best thing to use.

tesuhoha

brook2jack wrote: »

The most recent review of the literature shows q10 has no effect on gum disease and indeed the manufacturers of one supplement were successfully taken to court or falsely claiming q10 would control gum disease. Their claims were based on research over forty years old and since discredited.

"Many Q10 studies were performed 15 to 30 years ago without the benefit of modern experimental design and may not be highly credible based on contemporary evidenced-based review criteria.26 In a review of research up to 1995, the results found limited data, no grounds for claims made, evidence that some data had inadequate statistical analysis,"

There has been reviews since which have substantiated these claims of no evidence that q10 has any effect on gum disease.

However it is well proven that excellent oral hygiene does control gum disease and the fact your teeth now feel very smooth after cleaning and you have no plaque build up has alot to do with the control of your problems. Plaque left undisturbed for more than 72 hours turns into tartar . Even supporters of q10 don't claim it has any effect on plaque and we know the most important factor for controlling gum disease is getting rid of the plaque around your gums.

Well I can only report my personal experience which is that 3/4 weeks after starting Q10 my gums started to improve dramatically. At that time I was absolutely desperate although I did have an electric toothbrush. I was having frequent infections in spite of hygienist appointments. I did not buy the Sonicare electric toothbrush until quite recently, long after my gums got better but what it has done has stopped the need for frequent hygienist appointments. I have tried stopping Q10 and after a couple of weeks my gums start to irritate again. Dentists like to dispute the benefit of Q10 but all I know is that my gums would not respond to anything until I started taking it.

It is probably best for people to give it a trial and if it does not work for them they can always stop using it.

Toothsmith

tesuhoha wrote: »

Well I can only report my personal experience which is that 3/4 weeks after starting Q10 my gums started to improve dramatically. At that time I was absolutely desperate although I did have an electric toothbrush. I was having frequent infections in spite of hygienist appointments. I did not buy the Sonicare electric toothbrush until quite recently, long after my gums got better but what it has done has stopped the need for frequent hygienist appointments. I have tried stopping Q10 and after a couple of weeks my gums start to irritate again. Dentists like to dispute the benefit of Q10 but all I know is that my gums would not respond to anything until I started taking it.

It is probably best for people to give it a trial and if it does not work for them they can always stop using it.

You say in your original post though that you started taking Q10 at a similar time to the dentist and hygienist intervening and the improvement in your OH routine.

I would suggest that it was this much more than the Q10 that caused the dramatic improvements you have noticed.

The problem that people often fail to appreciate when trying to combat their own gum disease is that it really IS very simple and cheap to sort it out - just spend TIME with toothbrushes.

You need to make sure that the effort is well directed, which is why a visit to a dentist and probably being passed on to the hygienist is pretty much a necessity. But there is NO magic pill/potion/toothpaste/mouthwash that will cure gum problems. If there was - believe me, we'd be recommending it!

Q10 will not cure gum disease. Good brushing will..

Teenie_D

So is an electric toothbrush better than a sonic one?

OP my gums were really red and swollen for a while and got much worse when I was pregnant with DD but like the others have said just flossing at least once a day works wonders. I must admit that I have become a bit lax about doing it in the past few months so will have to get back to doing it again. I keep trying the interdental brushes but I just can't get on with them unfortunately.

C_Mababejive

The important thing with electric toothbrushes is using the right technique. Far too many people just waggle it about for 30 seconds and consider it done....the teeth i mean.

brook2jack

tesuhoha wrote: »

h. I was having frequent infections in spite of hygienist appointments. I did not buy the Sonicare electric toothbrush until quite recently, long after my gums got better but what it has done has stopped the need for frequent hygienist appointments. it.

Many other people also have the impression hygienist visits will cure or control their gum infections and gum disease , they do not. If you visit a hygienist and still don't clean effectively the tartar starts to build up again in about 72 hours. What a hygienist does is and what all gum surgery and treatment does is remove the tartar and instruct you in how to keep the areas clear of plaque so you can control gum disease.

Plaque has to be physically disturbed to control gum disease ie it needs to be removed with a brush, floss etc. Control of gum disease is 75% your effort and 25% dentists/hygienists and the vast majority of that is showing you how to keep your gums healthy for the 99.9% of the time you are not in the hygienists/dentists chair.

Unfortunately many commercial companies with an eye on profits will try to claim this mouthwash, that toothpaste, the other food supplement will cure gum disease when the simple fact is the two single measures that all scientific evidence points to are effective in helping to control gum disease are

A if you smoke stop

B clean effectively with brush, floss and interdental brushes ,if necessary.

tesuhoha

I have always been very careful about cleaning my teeth and have used floss since the first dentist said I had gum disease. I have had numerous electric toothbrushes and in spite of this I still developed horrendous infections. Personally, I do not think that cleaning alone is enough to control my gum disease. I suppose I could do an experiment and stop the Q10 to see if my gum disease returns but I am not prepared to do that. All I know is that when I was sick with swine flu I did not clean my teeth properly for two weeks but managed to take the Q10 and my gums remained stable.

I have seen the Wikipedia report about Q10. A large Dutch periodontal company is saying that there is no evidence that it works. However, they do not seem to have come up with any evidence that it does not work. I would imagine they have a vested interest in Q10 not working.

Also, some of you are stating baldly that Q10 does not cure gum disease. How do you know that? Unless you have gum disease and have tried it without success you are not qualified to say that. I would be interested to hear the OPs opinion after trying it for 4 weeks.

I am only saying it works because I know what happened when I started taking it and the incredible improvement did not coincide with any change in my cleaning methods.

welshdent

Not qualified to say q10 does not work?? Did you really just say that?? How does one become qualified to make that assessment? Scientifically and logically, WHY does it work?